Double Dragon 128k - The graphics

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  • edited October 2011
    redballoon wrote: »
    Can't decide now! THANKS ARDA! ;)

    You don't really need to decide. Right after loading this screen, use a small assembly routine to re-paint the logo with a different color chosen randomly from a limited set of options, so the game will look slightly different each time...
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  • edited October 2011
    Arda wrote: »
    As fikee says, the logo looks damn nice!

    I know it should be in warmer colours when you design for double dragon, but I must say, the blue-metallic one was far better. Also, green can do the same effect for yellow:
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    I like the green+yellow ... mainly because those are the sort of colours one imagines being associated with dragons and their scales and such and whatnot.
    You don't really need to decide. Right after loading this screen, use a small assembly routine to re-paint the logo with a different color chosen randomly from a limited set of options, so the game will look slightly different each time...

    Now that is a cool idea!
  • edited November 2011
    redballoon wrote: »
    Yeah, I agree. I'm going to be having a look at the opening cutscenes in the next week or two once I finish the remaining graphics for Jonathan's Replay game. Anyway, here's the final (I think, until tomorrow when I'll probably make more minor changes!) loading screen.

    double_dragon_redux_loading_screen.png

    This loading screen is great! I love Swainy's screen too though, why don't you use the Abobo picture for one of the end level boss cut scenes after the boss has been beaten? Something along the lines of the GBA version posted below.

    http://s932.photobucket.com/albums/ad170/retrogod_photos/Double%20Dragon%20Redux%20Cut%20Scene%20Idea/
  • edited November 2011
    Was DD128 demo'd at Replay at the weekend?
  • edited November 2011
    Didnt see it, thought Fikee was coming to the event but dont think he was there

    We had a 'Speccy section' right by the entrance so if there was any DD activity i think someone would have seen it
  • edited November 2011
    Yeah sadly Fikee didn't make it. I messaged him last week and he said that the demo wasn't going well... So I'm guessing that he didn't get it ready in time.

    I'm hoping that progress will continue.
  • edited November 2011
    Oh my lordy lord. You should find another coder! Was good to meet you at Replay but 2 to 3 years on one game and not seeing it running is just taking the mickey!
  • edited November 2011
    God, now you've got me at it now.

    Loved the text, but felt an 80's game should look a bit more "retro"

    so here's one i messed with. the figures are based on the cabinet art.

    Christ knows if it converts. it starts warping my mind after a while, this 2 colours/character.

    I'm much happier with 4 :)

    Steve

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    edited November 2011
    STE'86 wrote: »
    God, now you've got me at it now.

    Loved the text, but felt an 80's game should look a bit more "retro"

    so here's one i messed with. the figures are based on the cabinet art.

    Christ knows if it converts. it starts warping my mind after a while, this 2 colours/character.

    I'm much happier with 4 :)

    Steve

    DDtest.png

    great picture :)

    yer it does port with a few attribute issues perhaps ?.. VERY FEW though.

    you have seven up ?
    http://www.speccy.org/metalbrain/down-eng.htm

    you'll see a few issues with the face on the right person?
  • edited November 2011
    It's a great image, but you can't mix bright and non-bright colours on the same square, sadly.
  • edited November 2011
    STE'86 wrote: »
    God, now you've got me at it now.

    Loved the text, but felt an 80's game should look a bit more "retro"

    so here's one i messed with. the figures are based on the cabinet art.

    Christ knows if it converts. it starts warping my mind after a while, this 2 colours/character.

    I'm much happier with 4 :)

    Steve

    DDtest.png


    This is the North American artwork used in arcades and home micro box art. I never liked the names Spike and Hammer and never understood why it had to be changed so much for the US version! Its a great reproduction of the US artwork but I personally prefer the original Japanese artwork :) Anyways, what do people prefer up to now out of the Sting and Obama title screen and the Spike and Hammer one? Both are great looking in their own right. Will there be anymore mockups?
  • edited November 2011
    retrogod wrote: »
    This is the North American artwork used in arcades and home micro box art. I never liked the names Spike and Hammer and never understood why it had to be changed so much for the US version! Its a great reproduction of the US artwork but I personally prefer the original Japanese artwork :) Anyways, what do people prefer up to now out of the Sting and Obama title screen and the Spike and Hammer one? Both are great looking in their own right. Will there be anymore mockups?

    Is the Dragon title screen too difficult on a spectrum? Im sure it would be colour clash hell! :)

    Double-Dragon-Logo.jpg

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  • edited November 2011
    redballoon wrote: »
    Yeah, I agree. I'm going to be having a look at the opening cutscenes in the next week or two once I finish the remaining graphics for Jonathan's Replay game. Anyway, here's the final (I think, until tomorrow when I'll probably make more minor changes!) loading screen.

    double_dragon_redux_loading_screen.png


    How many cut scenes will there be? If the game is going to be a multi-load then can we have a slide show intro with music and an end screen for each level to push the story forward?

    Something like Speccy versions of these without the stupid animation on abobo down below :) Swainys Abobo screen could then be used for a cut scene if its not being used for the loading screen/title screen now. What do you think?

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  • edited November 2011
    redballoon wrote: »

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    Actually the Sting/Obama screen would be great as an end screen to finish the game after rescuing Marion and battling your brother! :) Although fighting your brother for Marion after he helped you through all those levels to rescue her is a bit naff haha and she is obviously a bitch allowing them to fight over her :)



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  • edited November 2011
    ok after the blow of realising you can't mix bright and half bright colours, this is the more "squared" result.

    so i added the dragon tattoos on the fists and stuck the green dragons around the text to offset it some.

    Steve

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  • edited November 2011
    Don't worry, bright and non-bright colours are not so dissimilar on screen, so it looks really good :-) Good job!
  • edited November 2011
    STE'86 wrote: »
    ok after the blow of realising you can't mix bright and half bright colours, this is the more "squared" result.

    so i added the dragon tattoos on the fists and stuck the green dragons around the text to offset it some.

    Steve

    dd2.png

    Hey... would moving the blue guy up half an attrib help with getting the bright/non-bright areas aligned (visually) ?

    (Yeah, I know then the red guy is lower ... but just check it out, and maybe make the same adjustment for the red guy too afterward)

    (Hmmm, then again the black areas in the corners works as a subtle framing device...)
  • edited November 2011
    Guy's it's nice to see these screens but until I hear back from Fikee, loading screens and other stuff are the last thing on my mind. I just want to see the game running.

    I've pm'ed Fikee. Lets wait and see what he has to say.
  • edited December 2011
    Or not as the case might be. Has anyone spoken to Fikee or know of any other forum that he might use? He seems to have not logged onto WOS since just before Replay Expo.
  • edited December 2011
    Coding something like this in ones spare time sounds a pretty huge thing to take on. Hope the guy's ok.
  • edited December 2011
    im gonna say what everyones thinking, whilst hiding behind a fake ident.

    fikee hasnt been back on these boards cos its all hot air. he is incapable of producing the goods and knows that, however good his intentions were.

    find a proper coder to do the job.

    good luck with the project
  • edited December 2011
    Might I suggest, if your gonna have the damned nerve to question someones programming ability that you at least do it like a man and use your real account.
  • edited December 2011
    Aye! Does seem a little bit of a low blow that does.

    Fikee has worked on some pretty good stuff in the past, and baring in mind he's trying to singlehandedy code a 128k only multi-load game on his own, in his spare time.

    I think given the circumstances he should be allowed something of an indefinite leaway?
    Every night is curry night!
  • edited December 2011
    Guys as frustraiting as it is, you have to remember that this is a huge project. Fikee is doing this in his own free time... Don't get me wrong, I wish that he would keep me and everyone else up to date with events but sometimes you need to back away from a project if you are not enjoying it. I'm hoping that he is just taking a break and will let us know what is going on in his own time.
  • edited December 2011
    lurker, poor show.
  • edited December 2011
    lurker wrote: »
    im gonna say what everyones thinking, whilst hiding behind a fake ident.

    fikee hasnt been back on these boards cos its all hot air. he is incapable of producing the goods and knows that, however good his intentions were.

    find a proper coder to do the job.

    good luck with the project

    Using my real ident, I hereby claim that you are an illiterate bell-end.

    [EDIT] I hope a moderator will "out" this guy and give his usual WoS identity. I know they can match IP addresses to accounts.
  • edited December 2011
    Daren wrote: »
    Using my real ident, I hereby claim that you are an illiterate bell-end.

    /me +1's the above, :D
    So far, so meh :)
  • edited December 2011
    I can confirm that Fikee is a good coder and hope that everything goes well in his life.

    He took an ambitious route while creating this game - lot's of compressing and decompressing to reduce multiloading, advanced sprite routines to increase game speed and so on. It could have been done more lazily and faster, but he wanted to deliver a really quality product.

    I just hope that if he decides not to continue the project (I hope not), he'll share the source code with us.
  • edited December 2011
    Ralf wrote: »
    he'll share the source code with us.

    but the project is already open source. And some of the code are there.

    http://code.google.com/p/double-dragon-redux/

    In this summer, he clearly said "it must be this year or never". As we are very close to new year, so he may drop the project possibly because of lack of time.
  • edited December 2011
    This is the most anticipated game in the Spectrum world. Keep up the good work Fikee!
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