Free video editors for Windows

edited January 2012 in Chit chat
I want to edit videos and really like Adobe premier but not its price. I find many low cost of free tools far to simplistic.

I want an editor with more than 1 video channel,
More than 1 audio channel,
Visual and audio transitions.
Must have HD support.

What would you recommend folks?
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  • edited January 2012
    See if there's anything HERE that fits your bill.
  • edited January 2012
    Turkwel wrote: »
    See if there's anything HERE that fits your bill.

    Lightworks, just the ticket, big thanks :)
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  • edited January 2012
    isn't lightworks the one where you have to post a request and be approved?

    they never got back to me :(
  • edited January 2012
    thx1138 wrote: »
    isn't lightworks the one where you have to post a request and be approved?

    they never got back to me :(

    Well I've registered, been accepted, downloaded and installed lightworks.

    However, whilst being open source, to get full access to updates, and the fully unrestricted version, one must become a member: ?20 per year for educational membership, and ?40 for professional membership. Standard membership is free but users are restricted to only the free version of Ligjhtworks which I presume is crippled in several ways.

    I think its a bit rich that open source is chargeable albeit by a rather creative means. It seems businesses are distorting the true ethic of open source software, and learning how to monetise the hard work of those working voluntarily and presumably with no payment.
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    edited January 2012
    not free, but not gonna break the bank. they emailed me to say they were having a sale as I use one of their products. think they own Ulead now IRC


    http://www.corel.com/corel/product/index.jsp?storeKey=gb&pid=prod3910160&cid=catalog3550067&segid=1153&ym_mid=1390756&ym_rid=85309016
  • edited January 2012
    Scottie_uk wrote: »
    I think its a bit rich that open source is chargeable albeit by a rather creative means. It seems businesses are distorting the true ethic of open source software, and learning how to monetise the hard work of those working voluntarily and presumably with no payment.

    Not that I agree with the way 'developers' use open source and call themselves programmers, I have to agree with this too... it's just wrong.
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  • edited January 2012
    I just want free editing software that is a little bit better than what I have, I really need to do 2 things

    1) obscure, hide, or otheriwse remove certain things from view, i.e number plates, and speedometers

    2) have a much more accurate editor, time wise, let me cut it to the exact frame, not just guess where I am between two whole seconds, and then do the same with the sound, and hope it fits


    #2 is probably more important
  • edited January 2012
    thx1138 wrote: »
    1) obscure, hide, or otheriwse remove certain things from view, i.e number plates, and speedometers
    Heheh... I know what you mean, but do be careful, Bond. It's trivial for someone to measure your actual speed by timing how quickly you go between two fixed points (signposts, lampposts, roundabouts, whatever) and measuring the distance between them.
  • edited January 2012
    and lamposts ;)
  • edited January 2012
    What you need is a giant green-screen setup...
  • edited January 2012
    ZnorXman wrote: »
    What you need is a giant green-screen setup...

    I think people might start to suspect something when Jar Jar Binks crops up in his bike videos and the Titanic sails by in the background...
  • edited January 2012
    ZnorXman wrote: »
    What you need is a giant green-screen setup...

    and a tread mill big enough for a motorbike.
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  • edited January 2012
    Scottie_uk wrote: »
    and a tread mill big enough for a motorbike.

    genius, right there.....well, that or a Darwin award in the making but either way I salute you
  • edited January 2012
    dyno checks already do something like that though


    erm, anyone know of software to remove time stamps from video?

    I find time stamps very useful when editing hours of footage, but don't neccessarily want it on the finished project
  • edited January 2012
    thx1138 wrote: »
    and lamposts ;)

    erm, is that like compost?
  • edited January 2012
    thx1138 wrote: »
    erm, anyone know of software to remove time stamps from video?

    Maybe you should just observe the speed limit instead ;)
  • edited January 2012
    thx1138 wrote: »
    erm, anyone know of software to remove time stamps from video?

    Try Virtualdub, there's a few logo\timestamp removal filters available for it (eg MSU Subtitle and Logo Remover) as well as standard overlaying. It all depends what you want the finished section to look like - black barred or blurred.
  • edited January 2012
    take this example,

    supposed to be 30 seconds long, by the time I've joined the files, my converter is saying it's 31 seconds,, by the time I upload it to you tube, it's 32 seconds

    it's really very frustrating trying to get my stuff to do what I want it to do :(

  • edited January 2012
    Scottie_uk wrote: »
    I think its a bit rich that open source is chargeable albeit by a rather creative means. It seems businesses are distorting the true ethic of open source software, and learning how to monetise the hard work of those working voluntarily and presumably with no payment.

    Open Source doesn't mean free and never has. It doesn't even mean that you get a license to use the source. The term Open Source has been around for decades and can mean anything from a company insisting on access to source code for auditing as part of a software contract all the way up to GPL style "give away all the code" licenses.

    The way that the perception of the meaning of open source has been perverted to one specific example is as annoying as the news calling computer criminals hackers :p
  • edited January 2012
  • edited January 2012
    thx1138 wrote: »
    take this example,

    supposed to be 30 seconds long, by the time I've joined the files, my converter is saying it's 31 seconds,, by the time I upload it to you tube, it's 32 seconds

    If you look at the final FLV you'll see it's 953 frames at 29.97fps which is one of the NTSC formats. You probably captured it with a PAL system at 25fps. I'd say the difference in times is down to the Youtube conversion process with a bit of rounding off to the nearest second thrown in for free.
  • edited January 2012
    Windows Media Player and VLC both show 31 seconds but as Turkwel says it's actually 953 frames at 29.97fps which is 31s 798ms so YouTube rounds the time up whereas other players round it down.

    I don't know what you're using the record the video but a lot of devices like mobiles etc use NTSC frame rates rather than PAL. If you are recording in PAL then you definitely want to make sure you're editing the footage as PAL and check that when you upload to YouTube that it doesn't convert the frame rate.
  • edited January 2012
    okay thanks

    I am recording with a Drift Stealth HD 170 camera

    it saves as .mov files

    I then trim these with Quicktime

    I then use Freemake video converter, either to join files together, such as half a dozen separate clips that I have trimmed out of a large .mov clip, and upload to youtube, or to convert to .wmv files. once converted to .wmv files, then I use Windows Live Movie Maker to add sound etc
  • edited January 2012
    guesser wrote: »
    Open Source doesn't mean free and never has. It doesn't even mean that you get a license to use the source. The term Open Source has been around for decades and can mean anything from a company insisting on access to source code for auditing as part of a software contract all the way up to GPL style "give away all the code" licenses.

    The way that the perception of the meaning of open source has been perverted to one specific example is as annoying as the news calling computer criminals hackers :p

    Irrespective, when you have unpaid volunteers working on your code, is it not imoral to profit from this work, unless they are getting somthing credible out of the deal?
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  • edited January 2012
    Scottie_uk wrote: »
    Irrespective, when you have unpaid volunteers working on your code, is it not imoral to profit from this work, unless they are getting somthing credible out of the deal?

    Are we still talking about Lightworks? Cause as far as I can see
    a) there is no open source version because it's been delayed
    b) they're opening their source, not getting other people to write stuff for them

    If we're talking about open source stuff in general you do realise that the vast majority of development for stuff like linux etc is sponsored by big corporations like red hat, google, IBM etc?
    There's this myth that all open source software is written by weird blokes with beards in their spare time. While those people do exist, a lot is written by programmers employed by vast software companies so yes, they do get something credible out of the deal, they get paid.
  • edited January 2012
    guesser wrote: »
    Are we still talking about Lightworks? Cause as far as I can see
    a) there is no open source version because it's been delayed
    b) they're opening their source, not getting other people to write stuff for them

    If we're talking about open source stuff in general you do realise that the vast majority of development for stuff like linux etc is sponsored by big corporations like red hat, google, IBM etc?
    There's this myth that all open source software is written by weird blokes with beards in their spare time. While those people do exist, a lot is written by programmers employed by vast software companies so yes, they do get something credible out of the deal, they get paid.

    I get that second part but it does not usually involve a membership fee. If they want peeps to develop plug ins for the platform when why not release an API and a revenue share development model rather than charging membership fees for the use of what they intend to be open.

    I dont need a yearly membership fee for a linux distribution, though I would be prepared to pay a small one of fee for a good distro that was pre-configured.
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  • edited January 2012
    My advice on this LightWorks, don't bother yet. Its very hard to use, which means performing simple operations takes ages. Its in its early stages of public release which means it is very quirky, some of the basic editing features are burred in keyboard short-cuts with no way to navigate them on screen. The fanboys of the forum have their fingers in their ears and say there is not usability problems, and its just the users being noobs. The moderators of the forums acknowledged usability shortcomings, but said their priorities were in stability at the current time.

    Also, the public version lacks many core features one would expect on budget tools, such as the ability to add titles in (without the work around of adding transparent PNGs). Adding images for more than one frame requires a stupidly long and fiddly work arround.

    I think the idea of cutting out these core features is so they may sell them as a plug in at some point. However, that is purely my own speculation.

    My current opinion, thumbs down.
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  • edited January 2012
    Not for Windows, but Cinelerra has a live CD which means it won't touch your drive. It's supposed to be pretty decent. Never come round to trying it myself even though I have too much Hi8 tape lying around...
  • edited January 2012
    Scottie_uk wrote: »
    I dont need a yearly membership fee for a linux distribution, though I would be prepared to pay a small one of fee for a good distro that was pre-configured.

    The point of Enterprise Linux distros like Red Hat is that you pay for a support contract so you know that someone will fix any bugs for you and extra bits and pieces of software that they release under different licenses that make the system more useful.
    It seems like some people are a bit spoilt by the amount of software that is available for free. It seems to create an expectation that everything should be. If someone doesn't want to give away their software they don't have to...
  • edited January 2012
    is there an app to edit out arguments about gubbins I don't understand from a thread about editing videos? :p
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