SOPA's bigger brother ACTA

edited January 2012 in Chit chat
Forget SOPA, Europe is about to ratify its bigger brother ACTA
Just as the SOPA and PIPA debate winds down in the US, the European Union is later this week set to work on ratifying a global intellectual property enforcement treaty: the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement.
A document seen by the EFF, a sort of discussion paper, reveals that rightsholders are asking for new legal regimes to "encourage ISPs to co-operate with rights holders in the removal of infringing material." In Ireland, the Government is within days about to pass a statutory instrument that may give rights holders, such as music labels and movie studios, the right to seek injunctions against ISPs concerning illegal downloading on their networks.

The EFF says that rights holder groups that support the creation of ACTA have also called for mandatory network-level filtering by ISPs and three strikes-style graduated response practices.

What do you think?
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  • edited January 2012
    OK, here's something that my "literal" eye caught ... "anti-counterfeit" ... err, how is a digital copy of some digital data not 100% the exact same thing as the original? I.e. it could not be in any way conceivably be counterfeit, surely.
  • edited January 2012
    How about the right to kick the originator of a takedown request in the nuts on live television should a court in fact rule against them?

    The fact is these rights already exist in law, the point is that you need an injunction from a court to force it to happen or you rely on the cooperation of the web host. What this is doing is trying to hand control over to media corporations and remove any legal oversight of how they operate. It's also to blame the local ISP for the behaviour of foreign websites, which is a ludicrous and wilfully ignorant misunderstanding of how the internet works.
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  • edited January 2012
    ZnorXman wrote: »
    OK, here's something that my "literal" eye caught ... "anti-counterfeit" ... err, how is a digital copy of some digital data not 100% the exact same thing as the original? I.e. it could not be in any way conceivably be counterfeit, surely.
    I believe they strip all the annoying un-skippable, un-fastforwardable, adverts and trailers off the pirate copies, so they're not the same as the originals.

    Got a couple of DVDs for Crimbo and I was stunned by the amount of unskippable crap at the start of them. TT-Closer to the Edge has literally minutes of stuff that you have to wade through in real time before you get to the main menu. It's an insult to anyone who actually hands over cash for these products -- hardly surprising pirate versions are so popular; they probably offer a far superior viewing experience.
  • edited January 2012
    I'm sure I've seen a Disney one that is even worse. It has this unskippable loud, flashy, patronising 'thank you for purchasing this genuine DVD' section. At least they probably own the rights to the sound effects for that one...
    Joefish
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  • edited January 2012
    joefish wrote: »
    At least they probably own the rights to the sound effects for that one...
    Heheh... Where's the "Like" button on these forums?
  • edited January 2012
    Anyone who watches unskippable trailers and piracy warnings obviously hasn't discovered that players like VLC just ignore the no-skip flags :D
  • edited January 2012
    guesser wrote: »
    Anyone who watches unskippable trailers and piracy warnings obviously hasn't discovered that players like VLC just ignore the no-skip flags :D

    VLC is awesome :D

    But I've noticed the version I have is starting to have trouble with some of the newer .avi files, and it's way out there if the vid is in .flv format, about 60% of vids in flv format won't play. Of course not many Hollywood Blockbusters come in .flv format, but a lot of youtube vids do, and I like to keep the odd music vid before it gets closed down........oooooh I'm a scumbag for that :D

    I don't see the prob with music vids on youtube though, why shut them down, no TV channels play them anymore? I would've said of VH1 probably has the rights to play that now, about 15 years ago, but now VH1 is another music channel equally as guilty as MTV for not actually playing any music. It's all half hour long stills of Snooky's arse onscreen now, or some equally crap reality TV show that nobody with a single f*cking brain cell gives 2 sh*ts about.
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  • edited January 2012
    ccowley wrote: »
    Got a couple of DVDs for Crimbo and I was stunned by the amount of unskippable crap at the start of them. TT-Closer to the Edge has literally minutes of stuff that you have to wade through in real time before you get to the main menu. It's an insult to anyone who actually hands over cash for these products -- hardly surprising pirate versions are so popular; they probably offer a far superior viewing experience.

    That is one thing about DVD and Blu-Ray that annoys me. I recall hearing how the TV, film and advertising industries wanted VCR manufacturers to put a system in that would prevent people from fast-forwarding adverts on bought and on-air broadcast recordings and DVD has given them that power! :evil::evil::evil:
  • edited January 2012
    Jimmo wrote: »
    and DVD has given them that power! :evil::evil::evil:

    It really hasn't. Once you have the disc full of data you can do what you want with it. All the so called protection lies smashed in the wastepaper basket of technology.
  • edited January 2012
    I hate unskippable crap so much, it really grinds my gears, one I had was so bad I actually threw it away and never watched it!
  • edited January 2012
    guesser wrote: »
    It really hasn't. Once you have the disc full of data you can do what you want with it. All the so called protection lies smashed in the wastepaper basket of technology.

    point is.........you shouldnt have to do crap like rip em, or watch in a certain media player to get past the crap.................if you paid for it you should be able to watch it without hassle. again all it does is hurt and annoy people who actually BUY stuff, senseless completely senseless
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  • edited January 2012
    guesser wrote: »
    Anyone who watches unskippable trailers and piracy warnings obviously hasn't discovered that players like VLC just ignore the no-skip flags :D
    Either that, or they're not watching on a PC :p
  • edited January 2012
    ccowley wrote: »
    Either that, or they're not watching on a PC :p

    Whose fault is that? :p
  • edited January 2012
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