feeling very depressed

edited July 2012 in Chit chat
Anybody ever felt like commiting sucide?
Not a joke and I ain't answering troll or just want attention either, this is the only forum that I post on to be honest. I have my Facebook but don't want to post my feelings on there for obvious reasons.
I have a job, car, long term partner.. but have found myself in a slump if you know what. i mean....and my beautiful toddler son

I find I get angry quite easily, can't concentrate etc

My partner said if I don't sort myself out by seeing a doctor or specialist
She has no choice but to leave...

Take the piss etc .....oh look it's rubber keys with one of his attention threads again
I don't give two focks to be honest but just putting it out there if anybody has been in my situation
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  • edited April 2012
    My childhood friend has the same thing going on.

    He eventually went to a counselor and started taking happy-pills, which worked.

    The main thing is to start with the counseling and go from there.
  • edited April 2012
    I've had periods off work for depression , in the early 2000s. tried 4 different courses of medication and none worked. eventually just got back to almost normal again. I've felt 'suicidal' before, but never enough to kill myself, if that even makes sense.

    dunno what to say really, give councilling a try maybe.

    if only for your kid's sake, every kid wants a "dad" I would guess...
  • edited April 2012
    I've been battling depression since 2002 and have had relapses throughout the past two years, in fact being honest I relapsed as recently as two weeks ago and I've kind of recovered but kinda still struggle a tad bit.

    But I'm not really on the same boat here as I don't have a wife/partner, I don't have children, I've lived by myself for the past 11 years since I lost my father and thankfully I am pretty good financially despite not working in almost 6 years because of this and bad knees.

    I was really like suicidal around 2006-07 but I'm nowhere near that state now, I fear death anyway so "wanting to die" would be a little inane for me.

    So I partially know what your going through with depression, but faced with a dilemma you have is beyond me I'm afraid. But If I was a father and needed reasons to get better and in worse case to live, then my child would be the absolute top of the list.
  • edited April 2012
    I know exactly what you mean Dustin and you have my sympathies.

    I've suffered with it for years and years, and it took me a long time (and a lot of persuasion) to admit to it. Even after the 'bad' period of my life ended and I met my missus, I still have fits of it.

    Before I met her, I was pretty much at the end of my rope. I had a long hiatus from here. Actually everywhere. When my marriage finally ended, what I thought would get better, got worse, despite my ex-wife being evil to the point of trying to persuade me to kill myself (she almost succeeded.)

    But it does get better, slowly, although I know from personal experience no matter what anybody tells you, you won't believe it'll happen until you feel it happening.

    I have a wonderful missus, a beautiful baby boy, new house, great job, but it affects me from time to time too, but i'm nowhere near as bad as I was.
  • edited April 2012
    I'm now in my 3rd year of battling depression. I am now separated - 2 years now - and we have a 5 year old son. I don't mind telling that I came *this* close to actually committing suicide. On a day where I left my parent's house, I fully intended not to come home. Whether that meant just keeping going and disappear or top myself, I had no idea at time. While I was out walking in the countryside, I came across a rope swing that had been looped around a higher branch. I tried to reach that rope for a good ten minutes but was just centimetres away from getting it. I was intending to go for a swing on it, but not by holding on. So, I gave up and had a good hour contemplating things as well as having quite an experience with nature then I eventually walked home.

    It's not been easy getting to where I am today and I'm absolutely nowhere near 'fixed', I accept I probably never will be, but things now have probably been the 'best' over those past couple of years. I have tried counselling - 3 times, counselling fans - but never did anything for me. That's one thing to remember. Something's work for some but not for others. I'm on my 3rd type of anti-depressant and I wouldn't say I feel better - they are not happy pills...if ****ing only! - but I way up the pros and cons being on these ones.

    What you have to be prepared for is that there is no quick fix. But use and try all the resources you can, they may not work but you just try the next thing.

    hah, it was my depression that caused me to originally drop out from doing the Double Dragon Redux graphics and I had a wry smile to myself when almost exactly 2 years since then, I found myself back working on it!

    tl;dr ****ing mental!
  • edited April 2012
    yes I have, and I was once told I had a personality disorder, though since I've stopped drinking and taking drugs I've been pretty level :)
  • edited April 2012
    redballoon wrote: »
    I'm on my 3rd type of anti-depressant and I wouldn't say I feel better - they are not happy pills...if ****ing only! - but I way up the pros and cons being on these ones.
    all the ones I've been prescribed have been ones you're supposed to take for about a month before you notice a difference. so I've taken them for a month, and not felt any different. I just think what's the point. the more immediate effect type pills are supposedly more addictive...
  • edited April 2012
    def chris wrote: »
    all the ones I've been prescribed have been ones you're supposed to take for about a month before you notice a difference. so I've taken them for a month, and not felt any different. I just think what's the point.

    Here's the thing though. You may not notice any difference but those around you probably do notice.

    My friend said the exact same thing, "I don't feel any different, it's not working, this is a waste of time!"

    But I noticed a change (after 4-5 weeks) but he kept on saying that nothing was different. Those were precious few weeks (for me) where he was actually even-keeled and easier to be around with.

    You have to allow the pills to do "their thing" so that you can reach a plateau (of sorts) where you can start doing "your thing" i.e. start working on yourself.

    But yes, not all pills work the same, nor the same on each person. And just the medicine part of the treatment can take months or even couple of years to see what works, or doesn't work for a person.

    And maybe medicine isn't something that works at all for a person dealing with their "inner demons" (so to speak.)

    But don't immediately discount medicine. "You" may not see the difference but believe you me, others will. And eventually you will see the difference yourself. That's where a log or a diary may help, where you rate each day and you can take a look at "a week" or a set of months where you see that things were better. It's easy to be stuck in a certain frame of mind, after years and years of having ones brain (or behaviour) wired the wrong way around. It takes a lot of effort to be willing to not only open up about ones issues but then also to see that things are changing.

    Don't expect change within a day or two ... you should be prepared for years of "self-work" ahead of you. It's also important to let your family members "in on it" so that they can help out and give you encouragement when you want to give up on your "self-work". Then again, not everyone has a communicative family or are willing to participate in something like this.
  • edited April 2012
    well i always get slagged everytime i post something deep and meaningfull in these threads, so here is a picture of a monkey

    ivy+cupcake+hat+tile.jpg

    it doesn't make sense, but the monkey it kinda cool
  • edited April 2012
    Crudleycrackers!

    Not only is he deep and meaningful, but he's also sensitive and encouraging!

    Milesy old boy, you're ok in my books icon14.gif
    mile wrote: »
    well i always get slagged everytime i post something deep and meaningfull in these threads, so here is a picture of a monkey

    ivy+cupcake+hat+tile.jpg

    it doesn't make sense, but the monkey it kinda cool
  • edited April 2012
    def chris wrote: »
    all the ones I've been prescribed have been ones you're supposed to take for about a month before you notice a difference. so I've taken them for a month, and not felt any different. I just think what's the point. the more immediate effect type pills are supposedly more addictive...
    Znor's right there. You've never really gave them a chance but he's also right that they are not for everybody. There are countless meds out there for it and you shouldn't expect that in a month's time BAM! you feel better. You may have made your mind up about them but this is something that should have been explained to you in how they work. They generally take about 6-8 weeks to get properly into your system and they won't make you feel instantly better. That's why you keep taking them. The effects and side effects differ between people and if they don't work? Your GP will suggest trying others.

    Usually, they'll initially plump for Fluoxetine (Prozac) or Citalopram as they are the least invasive. Citalopram, which was the 1st one I was on, can initially have some bad side effects - sickness, a slightly higher anxiety than usual, but these pass after a few days. Citalopram worked for me for about a year and a half then I felt they no longer worked. Cue next one, a stronger one, Venlafaxine, and again this seemed to work for so long before I felt I was no longer benefitting from them. It also absolutely killed my sex drive stone dead. I am now on Mirtazapine and although I don't feel like high fiving everybody I meet - anti-depressants DO NOT work like that - I never have to worry about my appetite, the anxiety and the sleeping AND I have my sex drive back with a motherf**king vengeance..right ladies? ;)

    What you have to be clear on is that anti-depressants are not a cure. They just make things easier for you to help yourself get better and that means CBT, counselling, psychology, etc.

    When I first came down with depression, I read a bit into what is actually happening physically in your body, and as much as it's always classed as a 'mental' illness, there is a hell of a lot physical that has stopped working and it's that what the meds help.
  • edited April 2012
    redballoon wrote: »
    They just make things easier for you to help yourself get better and that means CBT,.



    Yup, learn to ride a motorbike, bound to cheer you up. :D
  • edited April 2012
    redballoon wrote: »
    I'm now in my 3rd year of battling depression. I am now separated - 2 years now - and we have a 5 year old son. I don't mind telling that I came *this* close to actually committing suicide. On a day where I left my parent's house, I fully intended not to come home. Whether that meant just keeping going and disappear or top myself, I had no idea at time. While I was out walking in the countryside, I came across a rope swing that had been looped around a higher branch. I tried to reach that rope for a good ten minutes but was just centimetres away from getting it. I was intending to go for a swing on it, but not by holding on. So, I gave up and had a good hour contemplating things as well as having quite an experience with nature then I eventually walked home.

    It's not been easy getting to where I am today and I'm absolutely nowhere near 'fixed', I accept I probably never will be, but things now have probably been the 'best' over those past couple of years. I have tried counselling - 3 times, counselling fans - but never did anything for me. That's one thing to remember. Something's work for some but not for others. I'm on my 3rd type of anti-depressant and I wouldn't say I feel better - they are not happy pills...if ****ing only! - but I way up the pros and cons being on these ones.

    What you have to be prepared for is that there is no quick fix. But use and try all the resources you can, they may not work but you just try the next thing.

    hah, it was my depression that caused me to originally drop out from doing the Double Dragon Redux graphics and I had a wry smile to myself when almost exactly 2 years since then, I found myself back working on it!

    tl;dr ****ing mental!

    Well I for one am bloody greatful you couldn't reach it! My heart goes out to anyone who suffers with depression, my younger sister tried to take her life years ago and to be honest at the time I thought it was really selfish of her at the time but I do understand that you really must be at your witts end to feel that is the only way anything is going to get better.
  • edited April 2012
    I'm f**kin' miserable, ever since I got a promotion at work I've been drunk a lot less, but yet thoughts of suicide cross my mind a lot more than they used to?

    I don't really feel like offing myself, but I dunno I've had some funny phases in my life?

    My missus reckons I should see a doc, but I don't want pills, I fear that if I take pills I may lose my true self? I have no idea if that sounds paranoid, but I'm not up for it.

    So I come home from the job I hate, I drink myself stupid and remain Boozy :D
    Every night is curry night!
  • edited April 2012
    redballoon wrote: »

    Usually, they'll initially plump for Fluoxetine (Prozac) or Citalopram as they are the least invasive. Citalopram, which was the 1st one I was on, can initially have some bad side effects - sickness, a slightly higher anxiety than usual, but these pass after a few days. Citalopram worked for me for about a year and a half then I felt they no longer worked. Cue next one, a stronger one, Venlafaxine, and again this seemed to work for so long before I felt I was no longer benefitting from them. It also absolutely killed my sex drive stone dead. I am now on Mirtazapine and although I don't feel like high fiving everybody I meet - anti-depressants DO NOT work like that - I never have to worry about my appetite, the anxiety and the sleeping AND I have my sex drive back with a motherf**king vengeance..right ladies? ;)

    What you have to be clear on is that anti-depressants are not a cure. They just make things easier for you to help yourself get better and that means CBT, counselling, psychology, etc.

    When I first came down with depression, I read a bit into what is actually happening physically in your body, and as much as it's always classed as a 'mental' illness, there is a hell of a lot physical that has stopped working and it's that what the meds help.
    yeah I've got a list here of the pills I've done at least a month of in the last 10 yrs: Citalopram, Venlafaxine, Clonazepam, Phenelzine, Trazodone, Sertraline. as I said , I got no benefit off them, and I appreciate the whole "it's not going to happen overnight" thing, but I haven't taken any pills in ages, and feel better than I did!? cheers for your words though, and ZNor. I was only replying to say in the past I have had depression, not really atm...
  • edited April 2012
    Well, here's one thing. My friend also suffers from depression and came off her medication last August. She felt no difference from being on them from when she came off them. She stills suffers but can cope well enough without being on meds. She's tried them and knows what it's like being on and off them and i would never insist she goes back on them and would only mention it *if* she got extremely bad. So, there you go. They aren't the be all and end all. I do need them, she doesn't. You can take all the medication in the World but it won't solve any of your problems - only you can do that, I'm afraid.
  • edited April 2012
    I've had a couple of bouts of depression. Last one was 8 years ago and was by far the worst of the 4 episodes so far. Had to see a psychiatrist.

    Did me a world of good. Worked out what happens to me just as it's starting and I can see it coming now so hopefully can stave any possible episodes off. It's worked so far!

    Thing is, it is hell, and it feels like things won't get any better, but they ALWAYS do if you don't let it get you. When I have an episode I always come out the other side stronger.

    Talk about it. That's a great start! It happens to LOTS of people. I wish more people would talk about it and not feel ashamed of it having got to them.

    It's nothing to be ashamed about. It's not a sign of weakness. It's a chemical imbalance in your brain. No one's fault.

    It's not the end of the world, it will get better, and you'll be a better and stronger person because of the blackness your head puts you in.
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    edited April 2012
    tbh i have had vague suicide thoughts over the last few months, my job had got very stressful and the thought of a takeover and possible redundancy hasn't helped but i don't think i'll top myself.
    I did think seriously about doing myself in when my dad died and gf left me all in the space of 5 days, i drank heavily and was nearly in hospital due to panic attacks, i was on pills and the drinking probably didn't help but i somehow got through it after i spoke to my doctor.
    Best thing is to probably speak to a counsellor.
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  • edited April 2012
    Thanks MarkRJ, thanks for the encouraging thoughts, that's exactly the right attitude to keep in mind but it's so easy to dismiss it.
  • edited April 2012
    redballoon wrote: »
    Well, here's one thing. My friend also suffers from depression and came off her medication last August. She felt no difference from being on them from when she came off them. She stills suffers but can cope well enough without being on meds. She's tried them and knows what it's like being on and off them and i would never insist she goes back on them and would only mention it *if* she got extremely bad. So, there you go. They aren't the be all and end all. I do need them, she doesn't. You can take all the medication in the World but it won't solve any of your problems - only you can do that, I'm afraid.

    That's not very wise.... If you come off the drugs and start deciding for yourself when to take them, it takes longer for them to work, and when you're not on them its worse.

    I lived with someone with depression for a couple of years and can fully understand dustin's wife telling him to sort himself out or go.
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  • edited April 2012
    Last year I started experiencing really bad panic attacks and would sometimes freeze and be unable to move when I would go for a walk. They got to the point where I was afraid to leave the house. I went to the doctor and he said it was a symptom of depression so he put me on a course of anti-depressant meds. I'm doing much better now and I don't get the panic attacks any more, well very rarely anyway.

    I recommend you go to your GP. You will feel much better for it.
  • edited April 2012
    Necros wrote: »
    Last year I started experiencing really bad panic attacks and would sometimes freeze and be unable to move when I would go for a walk. They got to the point where I was afraid to leave the house. I went to the doctor and he said it was a symptom of depression so he put me on a course of anti-depressant meds. I'm doing much better now and I don't get the panic attacks any more, well very rarely anyway.

    I recommend you go to your GP. You will feel much better for it.

    Exactly same thing happened to me. I got to the stage where my 'stand by mode', how I was feeling when washing up, watching TV, reading, sitting on the loo, was a state of utter panic. That's when I went Drs. Panic attacks that only stop when you're asleep need sorting out professionaly!
  • edited April 2012
    Necros wrote: »
    I recommend you go to your GP. You will feel much better for it.
    That's how my recovery started. I pretty much kept my problems secret because most of my family don't give a s**t and they've pretty much given me a sod you attitude, because they are christian and I am agnostic, and so they just ignore me. But then I was told by a friend to seek help, speak to your GP and see what he says, I eventually spoke to a random doctor as I couldn't trust my GP as he's a prat and thankfully I got the help I needed.

    It all starts when you talk to someone about it, share your thoughts and feelings, as openly as you can, even if you have to be emotional about it, especially to those you know and understand what you are going through as "outsiders" wouldn't get it nor care. You see adverts advising people with mental health issues to talk to someone and from my experience it was the best thing I did, otherwise I might well have been ceased.
  • edited April 2012
    We've got to be the most dysfunctional "family" ever, here in the WoS Forums :lol:

    But I'm glad you guys are all still here, rather than six feet under the sod.
  • edited April 2012
    Go to your GP and get their advice. Take whatever meds they prescribe. Chances are you will be totally unconvinced that it's making any difference but those around you will start to notice the change. And it's not a matter of a month or two, it takes a long time and you won't necessarily be entirely aware of how far you've come most of the time. It can and will get better.

    Take it from someone who has been all the way to the bottom, you really do not want to let yourself hit the point where you wake up in a hospital feeling completely and utterly broken.
  • edited April 2012
    The brain zaps are nasty. Really nasty.
  • edited April 2012
    Depression is a horrible thing, I've lived with it for years, one way or another. I'm not sure what to suggest other than getting professional help. Reflection can also be good, as can talking.

    All the best,

    Shaun.
  • edited April 2012
    When I was at my lowest, on the dialysis machine at 22, completely out of the blue, my psychologist was brilliant. He took my mind of my problems that was both subtle and inspired. A very wise man. I thought it would be a load of ****e, but I recommend a shrink every time man, they are good.
  • edited April 2012
    Its amazing and inspiring hearing how many of us have experienced this horror.
  • edited April 2012
    Back a decade ago I went through a real, seemingly bleak, endless length of just plain miserableness. I had a feeling of total insignificance, no-one would miss me if I went, and, mainly, just 'why' and what's the point of it all?,
    a decade later, I still occasionally have those thoughts, but with a great other half and a little 'un on the way, there's a lot to look forward too also, the good points of life for the most, outweigh the bad
    I really think it's something most of us go through and continue to go through in varying amounts. it's just that some have the balls to openly come out and talk about it, most really don't and hide it away.
    Despite the faces and personas people show in company, they're totally different privately,
    how many times have you looked at a mates house wondering 'how they keep it so clean', when yours is a dump....then tidying like crazy when your mates come round to yours....they'll be thinking the same!
    society nowadays is all about keeping face, trying to be 'normal', to 'fit in'......we're all here, posting in a retro forum about a 30 year old computer, it's where we feel comfortable fitting in, to 'normal' people, they may consider it a little odd, to others we're a bunch of old farts reminiscing about old memories / when times were better, when we were younger....which in itself could show that we're all a little screwed up in a way!.

    I hope that these feelings change for you, there's only 1 life on the planet and 99% of us will be thinking it's a bit ***** at some point.
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