Rubbish Arcade versions questions.

edited June 2012 in Games
Are there any of the following games where the conversions could have been done much better on the Speccy 48/128?.

1) Kung Fu Master is surely one of the worst disappointments. If you look at Thundercats with its fast game play, large characters and decent scrolling then this could have been done in the same mould.

2) Nemesis. Again when you look how good R-Type was this game was clearly rushed. Great arcade game too which set the standards for the year.

Double Dragon remake is a breath of fresh air. I loved the arcade version and hated the original speccy version. The demo of the remake looks great!!
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  • edited June 2012
    You've picked two turkeys there all right!

    Jackal was another poor conversion - I loved the arcade game but the Speccy version was total garbage
  • edited June 2012
    spainboy wrote: »
    Are there any of the following games where the conversions could have been done much better on the Speccy 48/128?.

    1) Kung Fu Master is surely one of the worst disappointments. If you look at Thundercats with its fast game play, large characters and decent scrolling then this could have been done in the same mould.

    2) Nemesis. Again when you look how good R-Type was this game was clearly rushed. Great arcade game too which set the standards for the year.

    Double Dragon remake is a breath of fresh air. I loved the arcade version and hated the original speccy version. The demo of the remake looks great!!

    R-Type.
  • edited June 2012
    Side Arms is atrocious. I remember looking at this when I was at Ocean and being shocked at how bad the graphics are. They look like they've been drawn by someone who can't draw!
  • edited June 2012
    Side Arms is atrocious. I remember looking at this when I was at Ocean and being shocked at how bad the graphics are. They look like they've been drawn by someone who can't draw!

    Drawn by someone who's arms are tied to their side?
  • edited June 2012
    welp, gonna post HARD DRIVING here .....

    loved the arcade machine
    utterly HATED the spectrum conversion ..... hated it so much i took it back to the shop!
  • edited June 2012
    I seem to remember that the Spectrum version of Guerilla War is complete anus.
  • fogfog
    edited June 2012
    You've picked two turkeys there all right!

    Jackal was another poor conversion - I loved the arcade game but the Speccy version was total garbage

    go play fernadez must die on c64 then to make up for jackal
  • edited June 2012
    Didn't know Jackal got a Speccy release!

    Look , we're talking about a Spectrum 48k here, a machine designed as a home computer vs a dedicated arcade board. It's no wonder that many games couldn't live up to their arcade counterpart! Having said that, the wizardry of some programmers made the humble Speccy sing like a canary, and produced some astounding conversions. Gnereally the best are those that, rather than take a direct conversion, looked at replicating the spirit of the arcade game.

    I've said this before, but for many of us , just having a game that reminded us of those couple of weeks spent in the amusement arcade during the summer holidays was enough to satisfy us. We never expected an aracde perfect conversion, just something that was playable and which with a bit of imagination coupled with a pair of rose tinted spectacles made use feel we were back playing the arcade original.

    Then there are those REALLY special conversions that are even more playable than the arcade original like Commando and Bombjack

    It's a shame really that some of the best arcade games were ported by people who seemingly didn't care (Kung Fu Master, Double Dragon, Breakthru) whilst some of the more obscure got lavish treatment (Bombjack, Renegade)
  • edited June 2012
    I understand that Soldier of Light has a pretty poor rep on here. Myself, I loved the Speccy conversion, even if it was all in black & White. A littlle colour wouldn't have been too hard, even if it was just using another colour other than white for the background etc. It's probably not the best of games to start with also, but I for one emjoyed the conversion, even if no one else on here seems to.
  • edited June 2012
    In my opinion there is no decent spectrum version of Donkey Kong. The ocean one is dissapointing.


    Then there are those REALLY special conversions that are even more playable than the arcade original like Commando and Bombjack

    Absolutely agree. I would add Spy Hunter and Tapper.

    On the other side, there are some Spectrum games as good as the arcade version: Green Beret, Konami's Ping Pong (I didnt know there was an arcade version!), Renegade, West Bank, Hypersports, ...
  • edited June 2012
    In my opinion there is no decent spectrum version of Donkey Kong. The ocean one is dissapointing.




    Absolutely agree. I would add Spy Hunter and Tapper.

    On the other side, there are some Spectrum games as good as the arcade version: Green Beret, Konami's Ping Pong (I didnt know there was an arcade version!), Renegade, West Bank, Hypersports, ...

    All good games those - Hypersports and Green Beret are both brilliant (the brilliance of Jof) and yes the other games are all great too.

    Arcade games could be converted 'well' if a good programmer took the correct approach - alas too many times they seemed to be a quick 'cash in' job as the publishers new the games would sell on the back of their arcade popularity.
  • edited June 2012
    Super Hang On.

    The scroll is sharp. Sound causes headaches. The control system is slow. No 128k version. Really dissapointing.... :(

    Kung Fu Master, what a shame!.
  • edited June 2012
    On the other side, there are some Spectrum games as good as the arcade version: Green Beret, Konami's Ping Pong (I didnt know there was an arcade version!), Renegade, West Bank, Hypersports, ...

    I think the Speccy version of Renegade is far better than the arcade version. Same goes for Spy Hunter.
  • edited June 2012
    Final Fight
    Street Fighter 2

    Bad Bad Bad
  • edited June 2012
    Dustin wrote: »
    Final Fight
    Street Fighter 2

    Bad Bad Bad

    Street Fighter (both of them) were poor on the Speccy, but I think Final Fight was a pretty decent effort. It could have been far worse anyway.
  • edited June 2012
    Street Fighter (both of them) were poor on the Speccy, but I think Final Fight was a pretty decent effort. It could have been far worse anyway.

    I think that that the Speccy version of Final Fight is a mess to be honest. They've tried too hard to fit massive sprites in and the screen scrolls up & down when it doesnt really need to. They should have down sized the sprites and got the game running at a decent speed.

    I also disagree about Super Hang On, other than the dodgy music I though it was a decent attempt.
  • edited June 2012
    I already stated my thoughts about Nemesis and Jackal - which are quite different from what has been written here.

    By the way, about the first post, I went to appreciate the Fairlight games more since that time. Except for this, my views are pretty much the same as then.

    zx81 wrote: »
    Super Hang On.

    The scroll is sharp. Sound causes headaches. The control system is slow. No 128k version. Really dissapointing.... :(
    What? :eek: This is one of the finest Spectrum coin-op conversions! A real masterpiece if you ask me.
  • edited June 2012
    Street Fighter (both of them) were poor on the Speccy
    Another point I disagree (partially) with. The Spectrum version of Street Fighter was not bad, especially when compared with all other versions but the PC Engine CD one (the C64 "European" version being particularly atrocious). Street Fighter II was at least a brave attempt - pity for the insane multi-load system!
  • edited June 2012
    In my opinion there is no decent spectrum version of Donkey Kong. The ocean one is dissapointing.

    Yeah, I remember buying that - I was so disgusted with it after playing it once, I never touched it again.
  • edited June 2012
    Yeah, I remember buying that - I was so disgusted with it after playing it once, I never touched it again.

    I disagree. The original game is so basic, the Spectrum version does a good job altogether in imitating it.

    Wait until you see Soldier Of Light, Breakthru, Hydra, Vindicators, Track 'n' Field, Line Of Fire, ESWAT etc. to see a really disgusting Spectrum conversion.

    By the way, last October I wrote a special article for the gamesark.it videogame web portal about the worst and the best of Spectrum coin-op conversions according to yours truly. You can recognize the games even if you don't understand Italian :D
  • edited June 2012
    Not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but Pit Fighter was pretty poor on the Speccy. The odd sprites that shortened and stretched as you went up and down the screen. Was all at bit shoddy, really. :-?
  • edited June 2012
    I personally think Pitfighter is the best worst arcade conversion on the Speccy, fair play it's utter turd, but it's a brave attempt at trying to achieve something that was never going to be possible.
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  • Wait until you see Soldier Of Light, Breakthru, Hydra, Vindicators, Track 'n' Field, Line Of Fire, ESWAT etc. to see a really disgusting Spectrum conversion.
    E-SWAT was awful, especially the squashed 48k version.

    Re. Pitfighter, it's a pretty ropey game in the first place and only made slightly interesting by the digitised characters in the original that were never going to make it to the speccy.
  • edited June 2012
    Yeah, I remember buying that - I was so disgusted with it after playing it once, I never touched it again.

    Agree, DK sucked on the spectrum.
  • edited June 2012
    Kung Fu Master on the Spectrum was bad, of course, and also the Spectrum port of Outrun was awful, though many Speccy owners seemed to think otherwise (the ones who never got to play it, presumably, as they were having too much fun playing the Spectrum's version of Kung Fu Master ;)).
  • edited June 2012
    Gnereally the best are those that, rather than take a direct conversion, looked at replicating the spirit of the arcade game.
    agreed. big part of the speccy's appeal in many ways

    By the way, last October I wrote a special article for the gamesark.it videogame web portal about the worst and the best of Spectrum coin-op conversions according to yours truly. You can recognize the games even if you don't understand Italian :D
    agree with Pang, love that on the spec. (I'm guessing that was in the 'good' section)

    was Rodland originally an arcade thing? can't imagine it was much better than the spec version if so. blown away the first time I played that, even in monochrome
  • edited June 2012
    def chris wrote: »
    was Rodland originally an arcade thing? can't imagine it was much better than the spec version if so. blown away the first time I played that, even in monochrome
    Yes it was, I even played it in the arcades about 20 years ago. Monochrome apart, the Spectrum version is a nice rendition of it!
  • edited June 2012
    ewgf wrote: »
    the Spectrum port of Outrun was awful
    You are off your trolley. Wait, you are the one who hates Sabre Wulf as well, aren't you? Now that explains it. :razz:
  • zx1zx1
    edited June 2012
    STUN Runner was an awful conversion that should have never been made.
    The trouble with tribbles is.......
  • edited June 2012
    Compared with the original arcade, the Spectrum version of Out Run is bad, but I liked when I got it, maybe because I was playing 'that cool arcade game in my own Spectrum'.

    Not a bad game, anyway.
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