Copyright offenses officially as bad as child abuse

edited August 2012 in Chit chat
First Demonoid (a very well know tormenting site) suffers a week of unusability due to a well organised hacking attack, and then the site gets raided by the government and shut down. Not that I'm suggesting the officals had anything to do with anything as illegal as hacking a site, oh no. I'm sure there's no connection at all, just like there's no connection between sex and pregnancy.

Oh, and now Pirate Bay, the most well known torrenting site, is down because of hackers. Another co-incidence, no doubt.

In other news, some bloke in England gets four years in prison for hosting a site that linked to TV shows for download. Four years for a copyright offense.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19253359

Also getting four years in prison, was a man who raped an eight year old boy four times.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-19199319

And as anyone who knows the British legal system will testify, it's a surprise the child rapist got even that long. The world really is insane.
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  • edited August 2012
    Yeah, well, not the world, but some people are really insane...
  • edited August 2012
    The British legal system has always tended to view crimes against property as far more serious than crimes against the person. Insane I know but that's how it is unfortunately.
  • edited August 2012
    Jimmo wrote: »
    The British legal system has always tended to view crimes against property as far more serious than crimes against the person. Insane I know but that's how it is unfortunately.

    Well don't forget that rape was originally a property offence. I think the four year offence for profiting to that scale from copyright infringement is probably fair. I think four years for eight separate offences against the same victim is clearly insufficient. Frankly four years for eight separate assaults on adult would be lenient.
  • edited August 2012
    Yeah but the kid wasn't a multi million pound business or a foreign government throwing their weight about now was it ! 4 years is a joke for anything like this.:mad:

    The law always has been biased toward property and money.

    Personaly, I'd like to see a serious overhaul of sentencing in the criminal justice system.
  • edited August 2012
    Saboteur, the bloke behind surfthechannel wasn't a kid, he was 38.

    You are maybe thinking of Richard O'Dwyer who was a kid when he started tvshack.

    In both cases what pi**ed the major companies off was that they earned advertising revenue off what they must have known what was an illegal activity.

    What's the difference between these cases and someone buying a DVD, ripping it, and selling 100 copies on a car boot sale? Nothing.
  • edited August 2012
    ewgf wrote: »

    Oh, and now Pirate Bay, the most well known torrenting site, is down because of hackers. Another co-incidence, no doubt.

    is it? dunno, i cant get on to it since its been "hidden" by uk isps.

    however, the clone site i use insteeads perfectly fine :P
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  • edited August 2012

    What's the difference between these cases and someone buying a DVD, ripping it, and selling 100 copies on a car boot sale? Nothing.

    the point is the difference between that and rape
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  • edited August 2012
    the point is the difference between that and rape

    I would have given that SOB rapist life without parole. As for the copyright case, a hefty fine.
  • edited August 2012
    ewgf wrote: »
    First Demonoid (a very well know tormenting site)

    lol i only just saw that, a tormenting site :P
    Professional Mel-the-Bell Simulator................"So realistic, I found myself reaching for the Kleenex King-Size!" - Richard Darling
  • edited August 2012
    I would have given that SOB rapist life without parole.

    And if the victim goes on to be an offender, what sentence would be appropriate for them?

    Life without parole is a living death sentence based on the assumption that no-one can ever reform. It offers a marginal chance to the wrongly convicted (outside of the US where being innocent isn't actually considered grounds for appeal). But for those who did the crime there are two rational choices: kill yourself or kill as many guards and inmates as you can until they do it for you.
  • edited August 2012
    Saboteur, apologies, just re-read your post, I mistook your point.

    I agree though, 4 years for 4 separate offences does seem lenient when the guidelines recommend 10-15 years. But there might have been mitigating circumstances or they took into consideration the age of the bloke when he did it (16) (and presumably has never done it again?)
  • edited August 2012
    Saboteur, apologies, just re-read your post, I mistook your point.

    Nay problem :)

    The problem with fixed sentencing is it is easy to get it wrong, for example a 16 year old boy has sex with his girlfreind of 15, technicaly it's rape - the lad will probably serve time and get on the sex offenders list for a long time which is totally unjust. Whereas a 40 year old man rapes a 15 year old girl would probably be treated the same, which is unjust imho.

    This is why judges must be able to use their judgement and common sense when aplplying sentences.
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