There's really no need to panic. Disney can't just stuff the whole lot into an envelope, post it to Joss Whedon and everything will be amazing. It sounds like I'm being sarcastic, but I'm not.
Going way way back it was always meant to be three trilogy's, the original was the adventures of Luke Skywalker, the new Obi-Wan-Kenobi and the third which hasn't been done was Han Solo. This is what I'm hoping for.
Tbh there has been so much info and disinfo on how Stars Wars came to be written and made. As you say Chop 9 films were mentioned with eps 4,5 and 6 being made because they were doable with the technology of the time or that Lucas liked them the best.
Then there's an anecdote that there were only 6 films written and another that states that originally he wrote one huge screenplay and that at the suggestion of a friend he split it into 3/6/9 parts (delete according to which one you believe)
The whole story about how Lucas planned the films this way all along is a load of garbage as far as I'm concerned. He's contradicted himself so many times over the years that even he can't remember the truth any more. Scenes such as Jabba speaking to Han in the original Star Wars were never meant to be in the film. Gary Kurtz said it was pretty much shot as test footage and because it was awful they decided to leave it out, along with a whole load of other stuff. They had no CGI back then so were never going to replace the actor with a giant plastic-looking blob in post production. I doubt Lucas envisioned Jabba being anything other than human. Tales like this just show Lucas up for what he is - a fraud. He had no idea what Episodes I - III were going to involve when he started writing those. Well, he knew roughly what was going to happen in Episode III but so did anyone who'd seen the original trilogy.
I bought the annotated screenplays book when I was on holiday in the US at the time the "special"(!?) editions came out. It's interesting reading all the statements Lucas came out with back then which he subsequently "forgot" he'd made (e.g. how many times has he said "THESE versions are the ones I ALWAYS intended to make" just before he then tinkers with them AGAIN?!?) and shows how awful the original film would have been had it not been kicked into shape by others and re-written to hell ("Use The Bogan, Luke!"). The more Lucas has done, the more it's quite clear that Star Wars was brilliant down to sheer luck more than any skill on his part. Empire cemented the series' legendary status and that was because he didn't direct it. Remember, this is a man who genuinely thought making Howard The Duck was a good idea.
None of the new films, books, cartoons, live action series, CGI series, puppet series or whatever are as good as the original trilogy (and even ROTJ is a bit ropey if you watch it too soon after Empire). If Disney buying everything up means we get the "originals" back from Lucas's secret bunker, even as "extras" on yet another DVD/Blu-Ray set, then that's all I'm bothered about. The films just haven't been the same since 1997 and the non-anamorphic unrestored versions he begrudgingly knocked out a few years back aren't good enough when you think about how even terrible films get the deluxe treatment on Blu-Ray nowadays. I had no problem with him putting CGI crud all over the films and re-jigging them if that's what floated his boat but they should have been extras, not the only versions available, and it was his insistence that we could never see the proper versions again that narked me off (and millions of others!). Besides, the fact that he couldn't write a prequel trilogy without further breaking the existing films to fit found the new ones just shows how rubbish a writer he is. Spielberg was man enough to admit that tinkering with some of his films retrospectively was a mistake and Lucas isn't even in his league, he just became powerful by accident.
The whole story about how Lucas planned the films this way all along is a load of garbage as far as I'm concerned. He's contradicted himself so many times over the years that even he can't remember the truth any more. Scenes such as Jabba speaking to Han in the original Star Wars were never meant to be in the film. Gary Kurtz said it was pretty much shot as test footage and because it was awful they decided to leave it out, along with a whole load of other stuff. They had no CGI back then so were never going to replace the actor with a giant plastic-looking blob in post production. I doubt Lucas envisioned Jabba being anything other than human. Tales like this just show Lucas up for what he is - a fraud. He had no idea what Episodes I - III were going to involve when he started writing those. Well, he knew roughly what was going to happen in Episode III but so did anyone who'd seen the original trilogy.
I bought the annotated screenplays book when I was on holiday in the US at the time the "special"(!?) editions came out. It's interesting reading all the statements Lucas came out with back then which he subsequently "forgot" he'd made (e.g. how many times has he said "THESE versions are the ones I ALWAYS intended to make" just before he then tinkers with them AGAIN?!?) and shows how awful the original film would have been had it not been kicked into shape by others and re-written to hell ("Use The Bogan, Luke!"). The more Lucas has done, the more it's quite clear that Star Wars was brilliant down to sheer luck more than any skill on his part. Empire cemented the series' legendary status and that was because he didn't direct it. Remember, this is a man who genuinely thought making Howard The Duck was a good idea.
None of the new films, books, cartoons, live action series, CGI series, puppet series or whatever are as good as the original trilogy (and even ROTJ is a bit ropey if you watch it too soon after Empire). If Disney buying everything up means we get the "originals" back from Lucas's secret bunker, even as "extras" on yet another DVD/Blu-Ray set, then that's all I'm bothered about. The films just haven't been the same since 1997 and the non-anamorphic unrestored versions he begrudgingly knocked out a few years back aren't good enough when you think about how even terrible films get the deluxe treatment on Blu-Ray nowadays. I had no problem with him putting CGI crud all over the films and re-jigging them if that's what floated his boat but they should have been extras, not the only versions available, and it was his insistence that we could never see the proper versions again that narked me off (and millions of others!). Besides, the fact that he couldn't write a prequel trilogy without further breaking the existing films to fit found the new ones just shows how rubbish a writer he is. Spielberg was man enough to admit that tinkering with some of his films retrospectively was a mistake and Lucas isn't even in his league, he just became powerful by accident.
The End :p
the mythology about star wars is just as interesting as the mythology in star wars.
Tbh there has been so much info and disinfo on how Stars Wars came to be written and made. As you say Chop 9 films were mentioned with eps 4,5 and 6 being made because they were doable with the technology of the time or that Lucas liked them the best.
Then there's an anecdote that there were only 6 films written and another that states that originally he wrote one huge screenplay and that at the suggestion of a friend he split it into 3/6/9 parts (delete according to which one you believe)
Lucas has claimed that he envisaged the whole over-arcing plot and salient points as he wrote the stories, but this is contradicted by the films themselves, such as the way Obi Wan calls Vader Darth in episode four, whereas he should call him Anakin. Even if he accepted Vader's name change, he would have called him Vader, not Darth as Darth is used as a title not a name. Plus Obi Wan would have recognised C3PO and R2D2 according the prequels, but he didn't, nor did they recognize him. And why did Obi Wan not seem to know in episode four that Vader is Luke's father? Alright, so you could say that his manner of speaking "Your father was killed by Vader" (or whatever Obi Wan's exact words were) was poetic rather than strictly accurate, but that doesn't explain why Obi Wan is willing to leave Luke ignorant of the (potentially extremely important) fact that Vader is his father.
And since in the prequels Obi Wan knows that Luke has a sister, why does he not know this in episodes 4 or 5? Obi Wan (well, his 'ghost') says to Yoda "That boy's our last hope", and Yoda tells him that there is another, then we see Lea's face, clearly a massive hint that she too can (potentially) harness the force, yet this has never occurred to Obi Wan to wonder?
Or the way Darth Vader is redeemed at the end of ROTJ and shown to be at peace with Obi Wan and Yoda, yet (if you go by the prequels) not only has Darth Vader been totally evil and merciless up to that one action of saving his son (remember, he does it to save Luke, not to stop the emperor or the empire's evil plans), but he'd actually gone so far as to slaughter all the children (the very young Jedis). To be fair, that glaring plot hole exists even if you don't count the prequels, but the prequels make it even more ridiculous.
There are a lot more, just Google for the many threads on the subject, but these are the ones I can remember. I'm not a major Star Wars fan, though like most science-fiction fans I find them at least watchable, well 4 to 6 anyway (though I could do without the eewoks). But the prequels are hugely disappointing, as
(a) they don't 'feel' like Star Wars; to me Star Wars is a sweeping epic, with clearly defined lines between Good and Evil, strong, interesting characters who are so obviously on one side or the other with no shades of grey, and quests and battles that are interesting and serve a clear purpose. The prequels have less interesting characters, *much* less interesting plots (what Star Wars fans want to see political discussions about embargos???), and even the scenery and native technology often fail to capture the look of Star Wars. I know that this is supposedly because between episodes 3 and 4 the Star Wars universe was violently plundered and so technology went backwards, but that does nothing at all to excuse the differences in look between the prequels and the original trilogy. They should have kept the Star Wars look.
(b) The prequels utterly fail in their main purpose, which is to document the fall of Anakin Skywalker into the dark side and his emergence as Darth Vader. We're supposed to see a good, noble character become corrupted, but instead we see a largely unlikable character (who we can't take to, granted he's not as unlikeable as John Connor in Terminator 2, but the audience does not warm to him as they should) who for largely trivial reasons somehow turns to the dark side. This suggests he's not noble and and whiter than white (as Luke Skywalker is), but he was either on-the-fence morally, or was mentally unstable (and if the latter then his evil as Vader isn't real evil, but is instead evil actions caused by madness, which cheapens his whole Vader character, and the original films). We should have been shown Anakin Skywalker as a truly valient and caring individual, who we (the audience) can't help loving, and his long struggle and tragic fall into the dark side. Instead we get a paper thin story that carries no conviction at all.
Still, as disappointing as the prequels were, at least we can ignore them if we choose (and I do, I've got the DVDs of the original trilogy, but not the prequel, just like I've got Red Dwarf 1 to 6, but I won't buy series seven onwards). But the changes that they make to the original films are often detrimental and are much harder to ignore. Some people think the fans make too much of these changes, and are claiming about nothing, but that's not true - even a minor fan likes me hates the changes. For example, the Han-shoots-first change does massive damage to Star War, though Lucas can't see it. It was perfect in the original version of the film;
Greebo meets Han Solon. Greebo wants to hand Solo over to Jabba the Hutt, but might be amenable to a bribe. Solo tries to talk his way out of it, but fails, so he shoots Greebo.
That is defining of Solo's attitude, as (a) he does not shoot Greebo straightaway, he instead tries to talk Greebo out of it, because Solo is basically a good man, and won't kill if it's unnecessary, and (b) when talking fails Solo does kill Greebo because Solo is a realist and is prepared to get his hands dirty when necessary, and will shoot first if he considers it necessary. This differentiates himself from Luke Skywalker, who would *never* shoot first, even to save his own life.
Whoever wrote that scene (and remember, Lucas had co-writers in the original films, and he only directed Star Wars, not The Empire Strikes Back, or Return of the Jedi) understood Solo's personality and his attitude to life on the edge of the law as a smuggler. But Lucas clearly doesn't, as he altered the re-released version so that Greebo shot first, which implies that not only did Solo either react too slowly or didn't read the situation well, but also that Greebo was a *terrible* shot (I've never fired a gun, but I bet even I couldn't miss a shot from three feet away, so how could a Bounty Hunter, who makes his living from hunting outlaws and criminals, miss from that difference).
Lucas later changed it so that Solo and Greebo both shot at the same time, which failed to make the change any better.
Lucas has claimed that he envisaged the whole over-arcing plot and salient points as he wrote the stories, but this is contradicted by the films themselves, such as the way Obi Wan calls Vader Darth in episode four, whereas he should call him Anakin. Even if he accepted Vader's name change, he would have called him Vader, not Darth as Darth is used as a title not a name. Plus Obi Wan would have recognised C3PO and R2D2 according the prequels, but he didn't, nor did they recognize him. And why did Obi Wan not seem to know in episode four that Vader is Luke's father? Alright, so you could say that his manner of speaking "Your father was killed by Vader" (or whatever Obi Wan's exact words were) was poetic rather than strictly accurate, but that doesn't explain why Obi Wan is willing to leave Luke ignorant of the (potentially extremely important) fact that Vader is his father.
i agree, he should have had a speech when he first met luke.
'hey luke, see them 2 robots, i met them years ago, we had some great adventures. i had their memories wiped so they wont be able to confirm that though. also you know that darth vader guy, the emporers hench man, well he is your dad. also he made that c3po. you also have a sister who is a princess. your mom was also a queen. and your grandad was the emporer, or at least he created your dad out of magic. Luke where are you going?'
More importantly, ewgf, who is this Greebo character you keep mentioning? Is it he related to Greedo? (Sorry, couldn't let that one go!) ;)
But yeah, I agree about the prequels ultimately failing in their purpose. Part of the magic in the original films was not having everything explained fully. The Force, The Clone Wars, Anakin Skywalker's fall etc. were just some mysterious things left to your imagination and I feel being dumped in the middle of some [at the time] mythical serial without having seen Episodes I-III was what made the universe they lived in seem better. When we actually get to see them they're pretty crap - The Force is just a load of micro-organisms that can be detected with a lady friend's Gillette Sensor Excel, The Clone Wars is just a load of CGI stormtroopers (who are all the same guy as well!)* shooting a load of stuff, Anakin is a bit of an unlikeable git etc. etc.
There are literally soooo many things wrong with them that I'd probably break the internet if I tried to write them all down so I won't bother as others have already covered everything I could possibly think of.
*Yeah, I know they're "clones" but did anyone actually think that Lucas really meant clones in that way when he came up with the name originally? Or at least, did you expect them to be that crap and be announced by Yoda in a "Forward, men of the Middle Ages, to fight the 100-years war" kinda way?
He had no idea what Episodes I - III were going to involve when he started writing those. Well, he knew roughly what was going to happen in Episode III but so did anyone who'd seen the original trilogy.
Even though he knew what the prequels were like he still managed to drag out part I only to find that he still needed to cram ****loads into III to make any sense. He's had over 20 years to think about it!
If Disney buying everything up means we get the "originals" back from Lucas's secret bunker, even as "extras" on yet another DVD/Blu-Ray set, then that's all I'm bothered about. The films just haven't been the same since 1997 and the non-anamorphic unrestored versions he begrudgingly knocked out a few years back aren't good enough when you think about how even terrible films get the deluxe treatment on Blu-Ray nowadays. I had no problem with him putting CGI crud all over the films and re-jigging them if that's what floated his boat but they should have been extras, not the only versions available, and it was his insistence that we could never see the proper versions again that narked me off (and millions of others!).
Amen to that.
But I will say that the original trilogy Limited Edition DVDs with the original cinema versions as a bonus disc were the only ones I could find up here for years. So much for "they'll be unavaliable after christmas". I still saw them in Tesco and HMV for a tenner each 2 years later. Hell, they've probably still got some on the shelves now.
Oh, no. Every time you turn up something monumental and terrible happens.
I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
--Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)
Plus Obi Wan would have recognised C3PO and R2D2 according the prequels, but he didn't, nor did they recognize him.
Actually, at the end of III, Bail Organa (I think that's his name, Jimmy Smits played him) told someone to wipe the protocol droid's memory banks.
/nitpick :p
Oh, no. Every time you turn up something monumental and terrible happens.
I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
--Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)
And why did Obi Wan not seem to know in episode four that Vader is Luke's father?
I pretty much agree with everything you say apart from this one. If you look carefully, Alec Guiness gives Luke a sidelong guilty glance when he says Anakin was killed by Vader that to me is like he's telling him a half-truth.
How does wiping the droids memory banks stop Obi Wan from recognize them?
It doesn't, I was referring to the last part of the sentence: nor did they recognize him.
Oh, no. Every time you turn up something monumental and terrible happens.
I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
--Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)
Still got mine here beside The Godfather Saga. Not getting rid of either until they're both out properly on DVD.
Oh, no. Every time you turn up something monumental and terrible happens.
I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
--Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)
What we really need is a Caravan of Courage reboot.
Haha! I had no idea it was called that, I just remembered it as The Ewok Adventure
EDIT: Hmmm, didn't know either that there were at least two of them made. Wonder which one I saw then. Must have been the first, I think. Remember seeing it way back then.
Still got mine here beside The Godfather Saga. Not getting rid of either until they're both out properly on DVD.
DVD? Oh, you are so behind the times! Shirley, you must mean BluRay!
PS What's that Violet Ray thingy I've seen on BluRay containers. Something like "Also contains Violet version" or something like that. ( Talk about being behind the times, eh. -Ed )
Still got mine here beside The Godfather Saga. Not getting rid of either until they're both out properly on DVD.
The Godgather Saga was apparently shown in HD back in March so I'd assume that they'd release it on DVD and Blu-Ray soon-ish as they don't like spending money prepping things for HD if they can't then charge consumers for the privilege :)
And getting back to Star Wars again, I've also still got my "digitally remastered" original trilogy in widescreen on VHS. I had it on laser disc for about a week as well but I no longer had a LD player and only bought it 'cos HMV were selling all their LDs off and so it went to a good home via eBay :smile:
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I like that plan. :lol:
- IONIAN-GAMES.com -
The link says "live Action"
Tbh there has been so much info and disinfo on how Stars Wars came to be written and made. As you say Chop 9 films were mentioned with eps 4,5 and 6 being made because they were doable with the technology of the time or that Lucas liked them the best.
Then there's an anecdote that there were only 6 films written and another that states that originally he wrote one huge screenplay and that at the suggestion of a friend he split it into 3/6/9 parts (delete according to which one you believe)
- IONIAN-GAMES.com -
I bought the annotated screenplays book when I was on holiday in the US at the time the "special"(!?) editions came out. It's interesting reading all the statements Lucas came out with back then which he subsequently "forgot" he'd made (e.g. how many times has he said "THESE versions are the ones I ALWAYS intended to make" just before he then tinkers with them AGAIN?!?) and shows how awful the original film would have been had it not been kicked into shape by others and re-written to hell ("Use The Bogan, Luke!"). The more Lucas has done, the more it's quite clear that Star Wars was brilliant down to sheer luck more than any skill on his part. Empire cemented the series' legendary status and that was because he didn't direct it. Remember, this is a man who genuinely thought making Howard The Duck was a good idea.
None of the new films, books, cartoons, live action series, CGI series, puppet series or whatever are as good as the original trilogy (and even ROTJ is a bit ropey if you watch it too soon after Empire). If Disney buying everything up means we get the "originals" back from Lucas's secret bunker, even as "extras" on yet another DVD/Blu-Ray set, then that's all I'm bothered about. The films just haven't been the same since 1997 and the non-anamorphic unrestored versions he begrudgingly knocked out a few years back aren't good enough when you think about how even terrible films get the deluxe treatment on Blu-Ray nowadays. I had no problem with him putting CGI crud all over the films and re-jigging them if that's what floated his boat but they should have been extras, not the only versions available, and it was his insistence that we could never see the proper versions again that narked me off (and millions of others!). Besides, the fact that he couldn't write a prequel trilogy without further breaking the existing films to fit found the new ones just shows how rubbish a writer he is. Spielberg was man enough to admit that tinkering with some of his films retrospectively was a mistake and Lucas isn't even in his league, he just became powerful by accident.
The End :p
Fanstastic rant, Sir! Completely agree with all that.
Clones is ****e.
the mythology about star wars is just as interesting as the mythology in star wars.
Lucas has claimed that he envisaged the whole over-arcing plot and salient points as he wrote the stories, but this is contradicted by the films themselves, such as the way Obi Wan calls Vader Darth in episode four, whereas he should call him Anakin. Even if he accepted Vader's name change, he would have called him Vader, not Darth as Darth is used as a title not a name. Plus Obi Wan would have recognised C3PO and R2D2 according the prequels, but he didn't, nor did they recognize him. And why did Obi Wan not seem to know in episode four that Vader is Luke's father? Alright, so you could say that his manner of speaking "Your father was killed by Vader" (or whatever Obi Wan's exact words were) was poetic rather than strictly accurate, but that doesn't explain why Obi Wan is willing to leave Luke ignorant of the (potentially extremely important) fact that Vader is his father.
And since in the prequels Obi Wan knows that Luke has a sister, why does he not know this in episodes 4 or 5? Obi Wan (well, his 'ghost') says to Yoda "That boy's our last hope", and Yoda tells him that there is another, then we see Lea's face, clearly a massive hint that she too can (potentially) harness the force, yet this has never occurred to Obi Wan to wonder?
Or the way Darth Vader is redeemed at the end of ROTJ and shown to be at peace with Obi Wan and Yoda, yet (if you go by the prequels) not only has Darth Vader been totally evil and merciless up to that one action of saving his son (remember, he does it to save Luke, not to stop the emperor or the empire's evil plans), but he'd actually gone so far as to slaughter all the children (the very young Jedis). To be fair, that glaring plot hole exists even if you don't count the prequels, but the prequels make it even more ridiculous.
There are a lot more, just Google for the many threads on the subject, but these are the ones I can remember. I'm not a major Star Wars fan, though like most science-fiction fans I find them at least watchable, well 4 to 6 anyway (though I could do without the eewoks). But the prequels are hugely disappointing, as
(a) they don't 'feel' like Star Wars; to me Star Wars is a sweeping epic, with clearly defined lines between Good and Evil, strong, interesting characters who are so obviously on one side or the other with no shades of grey, and quests and battles that are interesting and serve a clear purpose. The prequels have less interesting characters, *much* less interesting plots (what Star Wars fans want to see political discussions about embargos???), and even the scenery and native technology often fail to capture the look of Star Wars. I know that this is supposedly because between episodes 3 and 4 the Star Wars universe was violently plundered and so technology went backwards, but that does nothing at all to excuse the differences in look between the prequels and the original trilogy. They should have kept the Star Wars look.
(b) The prequels utterly fail in their main purpose, which is to document the fall of Anakin Skywalker into the dark side and his emergence as Darth Vader. We're supposed to see a good, noble character become corrupted, but instead we see a largely unlikable character (who we can't take to, granted he's not as unlikeable as John Connor in Terminator 2, but the audience does not warm to him as they should) who for largely trivial reasons somehow turns to the dark side. This suggests he's not noble and and whiter than white (as Luke Skywalker is), but he was either on-the-fence morally, or was mentally unstable (and if the latter then his evil as Vader isn't real evil, but is instead evil actions caused by madness, which cheapens his whole Vader character, and the original films). We should have been shown Anakin Skywalker as a truly valient and caring individual, who we (the audience) can't help loving, and his long struggle and tragic fall into the dark side. Instead we get a paper thin story that carries no conviction at all.
Still, as disappointing as the prequels were, at least we can ignore them if we choose (and I do, I've got the DVDs of the original trilogy, but not the prequel, just like I've got Red Dwarf 1 to 6, but I won't buy series seven onwards). But the changes that they make to the original films are often detrimental and are much harder to ignore. Some people think the fans make too much of these changes, and are claiming about nothing, but that's not true - even a minor fan likes me hates the changes. For example, the Han-shoots-first change does massive damage to Star War, though Lucas can't see it. It was perfect in the original version of the film;
Greebo meets Han Solon. Greebo wants to hand Solo over to Jabba the Hutt, but might be amenable to a bribe. Solo tries to talk his way out of it, but fails, so he shoots Greebo.
That is defining of Solo's attitude, as (a) he does not shoot Greebo straightaway, he instead tries to talk Greebo out of it, because Solo is basically a good man, and won't kill if it's unnecessary, and (b) when talking fails Solo does kill Greebo because Solo is a realist and is prepared to get his hands dirty when necessary, and will shoot first if he considers it necessary. This differentiates himself from Luke Skywalker, who would *never* shoot first, even to save his own life.
Whoever wrote that scene (and remember, Lucas had co-writers in the original films, and he only directed Star Wars, not The Empire Strikes Back, or Return of the Jedi) understood Solo's personality and his attitude to life on the edge of the law as a smuggler. But Lucas clearly doesn't, as he altered the re-released version so that Greebo shot first, which implies that not only did Solo either react too slowly or didn't read the situation well, but also that Greebo was a *terrible* shot (I've never fired a gun, but I bet even I couldn't miss a shot from three feet away, so how could a Bounty Hunter, who makes his living from hunting outlaws and criminals, miss from that difference).
Lucas later changed it so that Solo and Greebo both shot at the same time, which failed to make the change any better.
i agree, he should have had a speech when he first met luke.
'hey luke, see them 2 robots, i met them years ago, we had some great adventures. i had their memories wiped so they wont be able to confirm that though. also you know that darth vader guy, the emporers hench man, well he is your dad. also he made that c3po. you also have a sister who is a princess. your mom was also a queen. and your grandad was the emporer, or at least he created your dad out of magic. Luke where are you going?'
But yeah, I agree about the prequels ultimately failing in their purpose. Part of the magic in the original films was not having everything explained fully. The Force, The Clone Wars, Anakin Skywalker's fall etc. were just some mysterious things left to your imagination and I feel being dumped in the middle of some [at the time] mythical serial without having seen Episodes I-III was what made the universe they lived in seem better. When we actually get to see them they're pretty crap - The Force is just a load of micro-organisms that can be detected with a lady friend's Gillette Sensor Excel, The Clone Wars is just a load of CGI stormtroopers (who are all the same guy as well!)* shooting a load of stuff, Anakin is a bit of an unlikeable git etc. etc.
There are literally soooo many things wrong with them that I'd probably break the internet if I tried to write them all down so I won't bother as others have already covered everything I could possibly think of.
*Yeah, I know they're "clones" but did anyone actually think that Lucas really meant clones in that way when he came up with the name originally? Or at least, did you expect them to be that crap and be announced by Yoda in a "Forward, men of the Middle Ages, to fight the 100-years war" kinda way?
Just imagine how wound up people would get then! :razz:
Amen to that.
But I will say that the original trilogy Limited Edition DVDs with the original cinema versions as a bonus disc were the only ones I could find up here for years. So much for "they'll be unavaliable after christmas". I still saw them in Tesco and HMV for a tenner each 2 years later. Hell, they've probably still got some on the shelves now.
I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
--Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)
https://www.youtube.com/user/VincentTSFP
/nitpick :p
I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
--Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)
https://www.youtube.com/user/VincentTSFP
Anybody remember those? :lol:
I pretty much agree with everything you say apart from this one. If you look carefully, Alec Guiness gives Luke a sidelong guilty glance when he says Anakin was killed by Vader that to me is like he's telling him a half-truth.
How does wiping the droids memory banks stop Obi Wan from recognize them?
I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
--Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)
https://www.youtube.com/user/VincentTSFP
I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
--Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)
https://www.youtube.com/user/VincentTSFP
Haha! I had no idea it was called that, I just remembered it as The Ewok Adventure
EDIT: Hmmm, didn't know either that there were at least two of them made. Wonder which one I saw then. Must have been the first, I think. Remember seeing it way back then.
DVD? Oh, you are so behind the times! Shirley, you must mean BluRay!
PS What's that Violet Ray thingy I've seen on BluRay containers. Something like "Also contains Violet version" or something like that. ( Talk about being behind the times, eh. -Ed )
The Godgather Saga was apparently shown in HD back in March so I'd assume that they'd release it on DVD and Blu-Ray soon-ish as they don't like spending money prepping things for HD if they can't then charge consumers for the privilege :)
http://blogs.amctv.com/movie-blog/2012/03/the-godfather-saga-hd-premiere-on-amc.php
And getting back to Star Wars again, I've also still got my "digitally remastered" original trilogy in widescreen on VHS. I had it on laser disc for about a week as well but I no longer had a LD player and only bought it 'cos HMV were selling all their LDs off and so it went to a good home via eBay :smile:
I know lets make CD's the size of vinyls and put movies on them :lol:
Hehehe
Many Bothans died laughing at this joke.
I think you mean "lets make laserdiscs even smaller than 7" singles and put digitised music on them"
LD came out before CDs :p