working over xmas

zx1zx1
edited November 2012 in Chit chat
At work today we've been told we're working xmas day, boxing day and new year's day (despite applying for holidays), no one will be getting time off or even extra pay! No one is happy i can tell you. I've had to cancel going to my mum's for xmas dinner as i've an early start on xmas week.
So, even with the threat of redundancy still hanging over our heads we're getting kicked in the ******** by this company, even the managers have been told they're expected in.
Any other wossers working over xmas?
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  • edited November 2012
    B'stards. Isn't there something called employment law that dictates extra pay for those days?

    Hopefully I won't be working, though being self-employed I may have to work part of Christmas Eve and probably most of the following week.

    I've had phone calls on Boxing Day in the past though no-one has dared ring on Christmas Day yet :roll:

    I'm not a particular lover of Christmas and New Year: it just goes on far too long for my liking but a few days rest is always welcome.
  • edited November 2012
    Working in a shop, we rarely get any time over Christmas and new year. Luckily, with my shop still being family run and not having share holders to line the pockets of, we still close on Boxing Day and sometimes new years day too so we at least get Christmas Day and Boxing Day off. But, from what I hear, they are "trialing" Boxing Day openings in a few stores this year, so mabey this will be our last one off? Eitherway, I'm not contracted to work Bank Holidays, so if they want me in, I'm tripple pay, so they'll opt for a cheaper person anyway ;-)

    With regard to the law, they can ask you to work Bank Holidays without extra pay (double time etc) if it's in your contract to work them. When I worked in a theme park we had to work 6 days inc Sundays at minimum wage as Sundays and bank Holidays were in our contract. We also had to buy our own uniorm too. I hated that job, but as I worked out of season and it was dead for alot of the time, it was easy money really ;-)
  • edited November 2012
    zx1 wrote: »
    At work today we've been told we're working xmas day, boxing day and new year's day (despite applying for holidays), no one will be getting time off or even extra pay! No one is happy i can tell you. I've had to cancel going to my mum's for xmas dinner as i've an early start on xmas week.

    Sounds quite harsh, I've worked on new year's day before but not Christmas day. Hopefully you'll still be allowed to get roaring drunk in the morning and have a nap in the afternoon while watching the Bond film..
  • edited November 2012
    I'd be calling in sick.
  • edited November 2012
    beanz wrote: »
    I'd be calling in sick.

    I just wouldn't turn up. :D
  • edited November 2012
    ZheXer wrote: »
    B'stards. Isn't there something called employment law that dictates extra pay for those days?


    .

    not really no
  • zx1zx1
    edited November 2012
    beanz wrote: »
    I'd be calling in sick.

    Thats what some people said they'd do, but it's going to look obvious if say, 5 out of 8 people call in sick.
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  • edited November 2012
    I've got a temporary job at the moment which only lasts until christmas, and ends with me getting the sack on xmas eve - and it's not full of presents either! ho ho ho!
  • Not good, zx :(

    I work at a university (well, two actually) and they're shut over the Christmas break so luckily I couldn't go in even if I wanted to. I've never had to work over Christmas luckily and although I'm not a big Chrimbo person I would resent having to go in and have to cancel plans with family or friends. It's becoming more and more standard for all sorts of places to be pretty much open over the whole holiday period including Christmas Day. I remember having to wait nearly a week for Tandy to re-open so I could buy a couple forgotten batteries for some game one year :grin:

    Hope all the uncertainty cack gets sorted out in a good way soon.
  • edited November 2012
    I worked Christmas day night shift and New Years Day Day shift, both started at 8 and finished at 8.
    Most people were in the festive spirit, I was a contractor for a well known retailer and that day only they worked out it was cheaper to give us food than to pay someone to serve it to us.

    Have worked the bit in between but only when it was an emergency. Yes its worth extra pay to work these days, Weekends, Bank Holidays are time off days and if boss wants something done on those days, they should pay the extra.
  • edited November 2012
    Ringing in sick on Xmas day, it's obvious what your doing go long term sick about 2 weeks before, then nobody else at you place will dare.

    Done well this year I'm off from 23-26 and 30-31st back on new years day.

    Also what do you do that requires you to work Xmas day.
  • edited November 2012
    zx1 wrote: »
    At work today we've been told we're working xmas day, boxing day and new year's day (despite applying for holidays), no one will be getting time off or even extra pay! No one is happy i can tell you. I've had to cancel going to my mum's for xmas dinner as i've an early start on xmas week.
    So, even with the threat of redundancy still hanging over our heads we're getting kicked in the ******** by this company, even the managers have been told they're expected in.
    Any other wossers working over xmas?

    1) Are you in a union - if not join one - even if you against unions and what they stand for , they provide a [cheap] element of insurance.

    2) have you booked these holidays ?

    3) what does you contract [Terms and conditions od employment] say ? This is the overiding document, there is no legal entitlement to Bank/Public holidays off - check it out, but it usually does mentions bank / statutory or Public holidays [christmas day is not a bank holiday] . The company should not break this contract it has with you without sufficient consulatation.

    4) the threat of redunancy and working christmas day are unrelated, threatening to make you redundant if you don't work on an agreed day off [see section 3] is victamisation. - but you will never proove this with out the power and finaces od section1.
  • edited November 2012
    I used to get double time and a day off in lieu, which I gave up for time and a half, and then did a longer shift in a petrol station at Xmas. Earned like a weeks wages extra, plus tips.

    W
  • edited November 2012
    I won't actually know if I'm working over the christmas until the schedule for that week gets posted up at work.

    I usually get no time off over the christmas though, and haven't really for about the last 7 or 8 years really.

    It's frustrating, but I've learned to swallow the bitterness that comes from not being able to be involved in any fun festivities over the holiday season. It doesn't do much to squash my already psychotic dislike of the festive season though. infact I'm often left thinking fair enough not keen on chrimbo and wotnot, but I do like getting pissed as a fart, but I can't because I'm working!

    Balls to it!

    If I was you ZX1 I'd try and find another job and cut the f*ck out of there, well providing you know for sure you're on borrowed time anyway?
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  • edited November 2012
    you should all walk out together and go on strike and if they sack you then oh well the place you was working was going to go down anyway.

    Places like that make me sick as they take the piss out of the workers who earn them money.
  • zx1zx1
    edited November 2012
    chop983 wrote: »
    Ringing in sick on Xmas day, it's obvious what your doing go long term sick about 2 weeks before, then nobody else at you place will dare.

    Done well this year I'm off from 23-26 and 30-31st back on new years day.

    Also what do you do that requires you to work Xmas day.

    I work for a well know telecoms company (i'm not naming them in case they get wind of this!) in their faults department, we have many corporate customers and we provide their voice and data services. Any problems they call us and we log it to our engineers to get checked. Theres another rumour we might not even be getting taxis booked for us, if that's the case they can **** off, i won't be in!
    Having 8 people in when most places are shut is going to be a very long shift:sad:
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  • edited November 2012
    Take in some board games like it's the last day of school.



    Hang on...it's Airdrie, isn't it?
    Take in some cans of Super Kestrel like it's the last day of school.


    ;)
  • zx1zx1
    edited November 2012
    murtceps wrote: »
    1) Are you in a union - if not join one - even if you against unions and what they stand for , they provide a [cheap] element of insurance.
    The union in our work is useless, it would be too late anyway, it takes at least a month to join.

    2) have you booked these holidays ?
    I had applied for them, back in April as did half the company.

    3) what does you contract [Terms and conditions od employment] say ? This is the overiding document, there is no legal entitlement to Bank/Public holidays off - check it out, but it usually does mentions bank / statutory or Public holidays [christmas day is not a bank holiday] . The company should not break this contract it has with you without sufficient consulatation.
    I'm sure terms and conditions says i'm available to work between 0700 - 1900 any day of the week including bank holidays.

    4) the threat of redunancy and working christmas day are unrelated, threatening to make you redundant if you don't work on an agreed day off [see section 3] is victamisation. - but you will never proove this with out the power and finaces od section1.
    The redundancy plans and working xmas day are related, even though its another department thats mainly affected (we'll find out next week whos for the chop).
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