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Meh, seen it all before...

GeeKayGeeKay
edited January 2013 in Games
I know it's bad and it's a kind of retro-oneupmanship, but when the Xbox 360 generation get all enthused about their latest hi-def game I have to become a moany old man and say, seen that all before.

My comparisons vary depending on my pee on their parade mood, but the can range from

Call of Duty = Strike Force Cobra
Fifa 2013 = Match Day
Tomb Raider = Pitfall
Skyrim = Lords of Midnight
Diablo = Avalon

and so on.

Are there any other "loose" comparisons that you chaps use?
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  • def chrisdef chris
    edited January 2013
    Fifa 2013 = Match Day

    tbh all football games are basically gonna be the same concept, with added graphical improvements along the way. There's not really much they can do with it is there, bit of a restricted area

    The only football game that I felt added something really 'new' to the format was Red Card (especially Red Card 2) with all the different types of special moves, bit like football meets Tekken.
  • milemile
    edited January 2013
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    Elder-Scrolls-5-Skyrim-Trailer-Screenshot-Dragon-Fight.jpg


    bloody kids, don't know what they are missing. :grin:
  • GreenCardGreenCard
    edited January 2013
    GeeKay wrote: »
    Are there any other "loose" comparisons that you chaps use?

    Turbo Esprit and GTA would be the obvious choice.
  • scunnyscunny
    edited January 2013
    Nether Earth and Command and Conquer
  • Rebelstar without a causeRebelstar without a cause
    edited January 2013
    Minecraft is basically just Lego.
    New Super Mario Bros = Old Super Mario Bros
  • DunnyDunny
    edited January 2013
    def chris wrote: »
    tbh all football games are basically gonna be the same concept, with added graphical improvements along the way. There's not really much they can do with it is there, bit of a restricted area

    The only football game that I felt added something really 'new' to the format was Red Card (especially Red Card 2) with all the different types of special moves, bit like football meets Tekken.

    Sorry, but the only game that brought something truly new to the Football genre was "Sensible Moon of Soccer" on the Amiga.

    D.
  • VanTammenVanTammen
    edited January 2013
    I see allot of Rygar in God of War
  • SwainySwainy
    edited January 2013
    Do you think that modern graphics take away that feeling of using your imagination that you had to apply to Speccy games?

    I can't be the only one who finds a lot of older games more atmospheric than their morden day counterparts?
  • WhizzBangWhizzBang
    edited January 2013
    If you have played a FPS game then you have seen about 50% of the XBox catalogue.
  • zx1zx1
    edited January 2013
    The little computer people = The Sims
    The trouble with tribbles is.......
  • def chrisdef chris
    edited January 2013
    Swainy wrote: »
    Do you think that modern graphics take away that feeling of using your imagination that you had to apply to Speccy games?

    I can't be the only one who finds a lot of older games more atmospheric than their morden day counterparts?
    a million percent yes, as simon cowell would say.

    the amount of effort devoted to achieving 'accuracy' or 'realism' with graphics in most games these days is depressing imo. it makes them look cold and characterless. especially in sports games, the latest tennis and golf games look so boring because of exactly this. there's no room for an edge of surreal fun or randomness any more it seems. [/rant]
    Dunny wrote: »
    Sorry, but the only game that brought something truly new to the Football genre was "Sensible Moon of Soccer" on the Amiga.

    D.
    thought that was a joke... just googled it. nice
  • dm_boozefreekdm_boozefreek
    edited January 2013
    Super Street Fighter IV: Turbo Arcade Super Duper Mega Alpha Bravo Tango Edition = Way of the Exploding Fist.
    Every night is curry night!
  • Scottie_ukScottie_uk
    edited January 2013
    Yeah, now games are being marketed as 3D. Where have I seen that before?
    Calling all ASCII Art Architects Visit the WOS Wall of Text and contribute: https://www.yourworldoftext.com/wos
  • GrazGraz
    edited January 2013
    mile wrote: »
    122996-the-lords-of-midnight-zx-spectrum-screenshot-results.png


    Elder-Scrolls-5-Skyrim-Trailer-Screenshot-Dragon-Fight.jpg


    bloody kids, don't know what they are missing. :grin:

    The comparison is accurate though, as those are the very images I imagine when playing LOM. Except LOMs are more realistic! :)
  • alexalex
    edited January 2013
    Swainy wrote: »
    Do you think that modern graphics take away that feeling of using your imagination that you had to apply to Speccy games?

    I can't be the only one who finds a lot of older games more atmospheric than their morden day counterparts?

    Yes, indeed. Obviously, the resources available to the game designer were very limited back then. So to create atmosphere you needed to be really clever in your design choices. One of my favorite backdrops is the skyline from The Caped Crusader, which, in my opinion, really puts you in the right mood for the game.

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  • GeeKayGeeKay
    edited January 2013
    I have to agree with that too. The Sentinel is a great example of a game that simply oozes atmosphere. When you are spotted by The Sentinel, you don't half panick :)
  • JuanF. RamirezJuanF. Ramirez
    edited January 2013
    Splinter Cell = Saboteur
  • MrCheeseMrCheese
    edited January 2013
    Do you think programmers get the same pleasure from making games as say Jof did? Is it possible to push the hardware nowadays?

    I am enjoying the new Carrier Command even though it has bugs.
  • milemile
    edited January 2013
    all this used to be fields you know.
  • def chrisdef chris
    edited January 2013
    Not played the game but the screenshot to Zombi looks a bit 'resident evil' to me

    Zombi.gif
  • redballoonredballoon
    edited January 2013
    def chris wrote: »
    Not played the game but the screenshot to Zombi looks a bit 'resident evil' to me

    Zombi.gif

    Ubisoft's WiiU game ZombiU looks somewhat remarkably similar to Zombi......oh.
  • guesserguesser
    edited January 2013
    You're all nuts... Flat 15 colour graphics and jerky unrealistic movement is more immersive than photorealistic environments with hardware accelerated physics calculations and surround sound?

    Can you honestly say that if you'd gone into WH Smiths in 1982 and had a choice between a 16k speccy and a Core i7 with a GTX660 for the same price that anyone would have bought the speccy?


    EDIT: okay so that's not exactly a realistic comparison since the speccy was a very low end machine and those are currently fairly high specs. A bbc micro would be a fairer comparison, or a lower spec PC, like a Core i3 with onboard graphics to compare to the speccy.
    My rubbish website including the redrawn Amstrad schematics and the Sinclair Wiki.
  • SwainySwainy
    edited January 2013
    guesser wrote: »
    You're all nuts... Flat 15 colour graphics and jerky unrealistic movement is more immersive than photorealistic environments with hardware accelerated physics calculations and surround sound?

    Can you honestly say that if you'd gone into WH Smiths in 1982 and had a choice between a 16k speccy and a Core i7 with a GTX660 for the same price that anyone would have bought the speccy?

    Depends on what the price of the system and games would have been back then. :)

    Of course if that type of technology had been available at that time then yeah, I guess we would have gone for the better system but it wasnt available so it doesn't matter. Then again most people say that the C64 was the more powerful than the Spectrum and had better colour & sound but we all went for the Spectrum at the time.
  • guesserguesser
    edited January 2013
    Swainy wrote: »
    Depends on what the price of the system and games would have been back then. :)

    Prices are pretty easy to work out. Adjusted for average wages, a 16k speccy cost ~?520 and a bbc micro cost ~?1400 in today's money.

    Jetpac on tape would set you back over 20 quid.
    My rubbish website including the redrawn Amstrad schematics and the Sinclair Wiki.
  • guesserguesser
    edited January 2013
    Swainy wrote: »
    Of course if that type of technology had been available at that time then yeah, I guess we would have gone for the better system but it wasnt available so it doesn't matter.

    My point is that anyone who claims it was better is letting nostalgia get the better of them. :smile:
    My rubbish website including the redrawn Amstrad schematics and the Sinclair Wiki.
  • SwainySwainy
    edited January 2013
    guesser wrote: »
    My point is that anyone who claims it was better is letting nostalgia get the better of them. :smile:

    I'm not claiming that the games were better, I'm saying that you had to use your imagination a lot more back then due to the limitations of the machine which made it more fun for me personally.

    Take Cyclone on the Speccy. No music, basic graphics but for me the game had great atmosphere and it still does today.
  • guesserguesser
    edited January 2013
    you could just as well say that playing games on the speccy is stupid, it's much more exciting to go outside and shoot your friends with machine guns made of sticks and fir-cone grenades from your command post / tree :-P
    My rubbish website including the redrawn Amstrad schematics and the Sinclair Wiki.
  • milemile
    edited January 2013
    guesser wrote: »
    you could just as well say that playing games on the speccy is stupid, it's much more exciting to go outside and shoot your friends with machine guns made of sticks and fir-cone grenades from your command post / tree :-P

    that was more exciting.

    the speccy was a rainy day pass time for most people.

    it was for me anyway.
  • dm_boozefreekdm_boozefreek
    edited January 2013
    mile wrote: »
    that was more exciting.

    the speccy was a rainy day pass time for most people.

    it was for me anyway.

    I preferred going Swimming tbh, although that's cos' the grimy roach pit of a pool was the only thing to do round my way :roll:

    Used to play my Speccy a lot when I was grounded, which was a lot of the time as I was quite the menace when I was younger :D

    Sadly I play video games about 100 times more now as an adult than I ever did as a young un'.
    Every night is curry night!
  • milemile
    edited January 2013
    dm_boozefreek wrote: »
    I preferred going Swimming tbh, although that's cos' the grimy roach pit of a pool was the only thing to do round my way :roll:

    were you banned from the grove?
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