80 euros, for a Manowar concert?

edited January 2013 in Chit chat
Just noticed that Manowar is doing a concert in a nearby city in march. Tickets is fecking 80 euros! I kind of likes their older stuff but isn't the band just a joke nowadays with latest records being worse than bad? To get some perspective on the ticketprice, Overkill (a band that everybody into the metalscene gives nothing but full respect!) is playing at the same place a few weeks later (i'll probably be there then) with a ticketprice of only 30 euros!
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  • edited January 2013
    lol manowar have always loved themselves a little too much
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  • edited January 2013
    wibble
  • fogfog
    edited January 2013
    blame the downloaders partly.. a lot of muso's only can guarantee some sort of income from live performances / licensing for film / radio & net airplay .

    A few of my friends are at the point "why bother releasing an album when some <removed> will have it on a torrent etc within 4 hours" . not naming names.. but thats how a few I know feel and would rather play live their old stuff and get money from fans who support em..

    tricky to know what to do, as at the same time you're annoying folk who may like your music , but just don't have the funds.

    thankfully I don't have to pay mr. THX for my speakers which are thx certified :)

    edit : oh dear, I've edited this 5 times already.. shocking...
  • edited January 2013
    Both bands are sh*t stop crying! :p
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  • fogfog
    edited January 2013
    Both bands are sh*t stop crying! :p

    that's worthy of the ewgf's short post of the year award :) dammit!!
  • edited January 2013
    fog wrote: »
    blame the downloaders partly.. a lot of muso's only can guarantee some sort of income from live performances / licensing for film / radio & net airplay .

    A few of my friends are at the point "why bother releasing an album when some <removed> will have it on a torrent etc within 4 hours" . not naming names.. but thats how a few I know feel and would rather play live their old stuff and get money from fans who support em..

    tricky to know what to do, as at the same time you're annoying folk who may like your music , but just don't have the funds.

    thankfully I don't have to pay mr. THX for my speakers which are thx certified :)

    edit : oh dear, I've edited this 5 times already.. shocking...

    Yeah but 80 euros, surely the band must be more than a little disillusioned of themselves. Was to a W.A.S.P. concert a few months back, i don't think the ticket was over 40 euros. And only 30 euros for Overkill. Isn't Manowar considered Spinal Tap, but for real?
  • edited January 2013
    fog wrote: »
    blame the downloaders partly.. a lot of muso's only can guarantee some sort of income from live performances / licensing for film / radio & net airplay .

    A few of my friends are at the point "why bother releasing an album when some <removed> will have it on a torrent etc within 4 hours" . not naming names.. but thats how a few I know feel and would rather play live their old stuff and get money from fans who support em..
    thats crap, yes i download..............and i buy the ones i love, manowar related, i own 1 album..........and bought it on second hand vinyl, gonna slag off second hand vinyl too?
    but ripping off your paying fans to make the money is just not on, i hope the fans actually vote with their feet and dont go.
    its like the ads on dvds you cant skip, the root kits on sony cds, and now the us games industry making moves to stop the sale of second hand games...........it hits those that buy the actual things, not pirates
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  • fogfog
    edited January 2013
    hence why I put the last closing comment on that last post. "tricky to know what to do, as at the same time you're annoying folk who may like your music , but just don't have the funds."

    but it's hit a few people's income big time... just because jagger and a few more make silly money every year.. that doesn't apply for everyone.

    a few muso's I know have given up music totally and done the 9-5 route (like everyone else).. is that a reflection on their talent, not at all ...

    more a case of what people are told to listen to .. or some that are wise enough feeling it's ok to just grab it.. and taking the % that the original writer would get.

    it's tricky, yer I like to make music.. but what pays for the x-amount of plugins I've bought or expensive speakers etc. You make music because you feel compelled or want to.. but there is still the thing of putting bread on the table.. and with muso's the %'s are low and share amongst a select few..

    guess that's like the whole 10% own most of the wealth while 90% don't.

    the whole 2nd hand thing.. that's already money that's been "got" in a sense.. so that doesn't impact stuff... ONLY if the person who sold it on backs it up = they didn't pay for it really, it was just a means to getting it.

    I knew a few DJ's who asked me for stuff, music wise.. remember these are people who were making a living out of others music.. YET.. they feel not to pay the people who provide them a raw material :)

    it's more fun not saying to people about music.. to find out what they really feel.. then they back track in some cases and change tact hehe
  • edited January 2013
    never liked manowar for some reason. listened to loads of metal, but can't tell you a single track they've done.
    fog wrote: »
    that's worthy of the ewgf's short post of the year award :) dammit!!
    it's not even the shortest post in this thread!
  • edited January 2013
    Went to see them back in '92 and they were great. Unfortunately they haven't done a decent album since Triumph of Steel.
  • edited January 2013
    I've always thought Manowar are a good laugh in a Bad News/Spinal Tap sort of way, but they seem so ridiculously po faced that they probably wouldn't get the joke if they watched either.

    I might watch them if they played at a festival or something, but eighty euros? No way!
  • edited January 2013
    I paid less than that to see Alice Cooper and Twisted Sister in Cardiff a couple of years back.
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  • edited January 2013
    fog wrote: »
    A few of my friends are at the point "why bother releasing an album when some <removed> will have it on a torrent etc within 4 hours" . not naming names..
    Boohoo. If their desire to record music centered so strongly around making money and getting adoration, then maybe it isn't for them anyway. Sounds like they'd be much better suited to working in a bank or a shoe shop.

    Thanks to technology and the internet, anyone, even with a relatively humble income, can write and record an album and release it digitally in their spare time. If it's halfway decent musically and technically, people will listen to it. It just doesn't work so well as a commercial enterprise any more, even if you are alright at it. Never mind.
  • fogfog
    edited January 2013
    this is interesting thing that was on bbc4

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01nwfxs/Pop_Charts_Britannia_60_Years_of_the_Top_10/

    ccowley wrote: »
    Boohoo. If their desire to record music centered so strongly around making money and getting adoration, then maybe it isn't for them anyway. Sounds like they'd be much better suited to working in a bank or a shoe shop.

    Thanks to technology and the internet, anyone, even with a relatively humble income, can write and record an album and release it digitally in their spare time. If it's halfway decent musically and technically, people will listen to it. It just doesn't work so well as a commercial enterprise any more, even if you are alright at it. Never mind.

    not really, as I stated before it's about making a living wage from it . i.e. not millions even. I work for a company, I wouldn't if I wasn't paid.

    it's the same with writing, I can have a book rejected by a publisher, but chuck it on a book site online.. doesn't mean it's good.

    I go on a certain music forum , and it's full of people trying to plug stuff that isn't complete in aspects (mastering / mixing being the obvious thing)

    technology is good to a point (I use it myself) but you can't exactly record live 100% strings being the 1 that comes to mind as example.. and strings players need paying also.. I'd prefer that then what I use, garritan and a few more string libs (and again I had to fork out for them).. so thats why live shows are important in the sense of .. if your not getting it from album sales, where else to get it from?

    it's a select few that make the really big money.. partly by luck.. and sometimes partly getting the talent of others to do the work to make them "good". it's interesting writing wise who was writing a lot of the UK chart stuff, from 80's to 2000's + it was a certain click of people.. and if you mentioned their name, unless you look at writing credits it wasn't obvious
  • edited January 2013
    fog wrote: »
    not really, as I stated before it's about making a living wage from it . i.e. not millions even. I work for a company, I wouldn't if I wasn't paid.

    it's the same with writing, I can have a book rejected by a publisher, but chuck it on a book site online.. doesn't mean it's good.
    Yes, but it also doesn't mean it's bad. My point was: it's not a problem in any way that releasing albums is not a way to make a viable living. Same as painting, sculpting, creating works of fiction, or pretty much any art - if somebody is doing it primarily as a money making exercise, then they are probably not doing it for the right reasons.

    I have very little sympathy for any artist that gives "I can't make a viable living from it" as a reason for not releasing albums. Or singles. Or performing live.
  • zx1zx1
    edited January 2013
    I paid ?50 to see David Gilmour live in 2006, i also paid the same to see Brian Wilson live a year later. Both gigs were worth the money.
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  • edited January 2013
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    i think karingals the one stood in the middle at the back
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  • edited January 2013
    That meme would be funny if they had've spelled "they're" correctly :roll:
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  • edited January 2013
    That meme would be funny if they had've spelled "they're" correctly :roll:

    i saw that, bloody stupid metallers Oo
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  • edited January 2013
    That meme would be funny if they had've spelled "they're" correctly :roll:

    I noticed that too, but it was the best I could find! Actually, I found it by accident. Honest ;-)
  • edited January 2013
    I noticed that too, but it was the best I could find! Actually, I found it by accident. Honest ;-)
    yeah while you was googling shops that sell leather studded pants
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  • edited January 2013
    It's a shame that they did stupid idiotic stunts like that pic and took themselves a bit too seriously with all the brothers-in-arms-against-false-metal crap as they actually did some bloody good stuff.

    Kings Of Metal is one of the best albums of the 80's (Kingdom Come, Hail and Kill and Heart of Steel are fantastic tracks) and they actually followed it up with another great album with Triumph Of Steel. Before that, Fighting The World (it has Orson Welles on it) and Sign Of The Hammer are very decent albums. The albums before aren't bad. Post-Triumph they've been ****e.
  • edited January 2013
    ...and we haven't even got on to the fact that Manowar promote their own brand of condom, called (and I kid you not) The Warrior's Shield, eloquently described on the band's website thus:

    "MANOWAR fans have requested a special piece of merchandise from their favorite metal band. MANOWAR has heard these requests and delivered.

    The new MANOWAR condoms are the perfect romantic accessory for all true metal couples. Whether you are looking to spice things up in the bedroom or meet somebody new after the show, MANOWAR condoms will do the trick. Now, you are ready for any chance meetings that turn into unexpected friendships.

    This special "Warrior's Shield" is made of 100% natural rubber latex and transparent in color. All condoms are FDA approved against pregnancy, AIDS and other STD's. Expiration date, lot numbers and health advisories printed on the back of each condom.

    The "Warrior's Shield" is individually packaged with the white MANOWAR logo emblazoned on the package. The "Warrior's Shield" is sold five (5) condoms per bag.

    Now you can not only say F*ck The World, you can do it as well"
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