80 euros, for a Manowar concert?
Just noticed that Manowar is doing a concert in a nearby city in march. Tickets is fecking 80 euros! I kind of likes their older stuff but isn't the band just a joke nowadays with latest records being worse than bad? To get some perspective on the ticketprice, Overkill (a band that everybody into the metalscene gives nothing but full respect!) is playing at the same place a few weeks later (i'll probably be there then) with a ticketprice of only 30 euros!
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A few of my friends are at the point "why bother releasing an album when some <removed> will have it on a torrent etc within 4 hours" . not naming names.. but thats how a few I know feel and would rather play live their old stuff and get money from fans who support em..
tricky to know what to do, as at the same time you're annoying folk who may like your music , but just don't have the funds.
thankfully I don't have to pay mr. THX for my speakers which are thx certified :)
edit : oh dear, I've edited this 5 times already.. shocking...
that's worthy of the ewgf's short post of the year award :) dammit!!
Yeah but 80 euros, surely the band must be more than a little disillusioned of themselves. Was to a W.A.S.P. concert a few months back, i don't think the ticket was over 40 euros. And only 30 euros for Overkill. Isn't Manowar considered Spinal Tap, but for real?
but ripping off your paying fans to make the money is just not on, i hope the fans actually vote with their feet and dont go.
its like the ads on dvds you cant skip, the root kits on sony cds, and now the us games industry making moves to stop the sale of second hand games...........it hits those that buy the actual things, not pirates
but it's hit a few people's income big time... just because jagger and a few more make silly money every year.. that doesn't apply for everyone.
a few muso's I know have given up music totally and done the 9-5 route (like everyone else).. is that a reflection on their talent, not at all ...
more a case of what people are told to listen to .. or some that are wise enough feeling it's ok to just grab it.. and taking the % that the original writer would get.
it's tricky, yer I like to make music.. but what pays for the x-amount of plugins I've bought or expensive speakers etc. You make music because you feel compelled or want to.. but there is still the thing of putting bread on the table.. and with muso's the %'s are low and share amongst a select few..
guess that's like the whole 10% own most of the wealth while 90% don't.
the whole 2nd hand thing.. that's already money that's been "got" in a sense.. so that doesn't impact stuff... ONLY if the person who sold it on backs it up = they didn't pay for it really, it was just a means to getting it.
I knew a few DJ's who asked me for stuff, music wise.. remember these are people who were making a living out of others music.. YET.. they feel not to pay the people who provide them a raw material :)
it's more fun not saying to people about music.. to find out what they really feel.. then they back track in some cases and change tact hehe
it's not even the shortest post in this thread!
I might watch them if they played at a festival or something, but eighty euros? No way!
Thanks to technology and the internet, anyone, even with a relatively humble income, can write and record an album and release it digitally in their spare time. If it's halfway decent musically and technically, people will listen to it. It just doesn't work so well as a commercial enterprise any more, even if you are alright at it. Never mind.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01nwfxs/Pop_Charts_Britannia_60_Years_of_the_Top_10/
not really, as I stated before it's about making a living wage from it . i.e. not millions even. I work for a company, I wouldn't if I wasn't paid.
it's the same with writing, I can have a book rejected by a publisher, but chuck it on a book site online.. doesn't mean it's good.
I go on a certain music forum , and it's full of people trying to plug stuff that isn't complete in aspects (mastering / mixing being the obvious thing)
technology is good to a point (I use it myself) but you can't exactly record live 100% strings being the 1 that comes to mind as example.. and strings players need paying also.. I'd prefer that then what I use, garritan and a few more string libs (and again I had to fork out for them).. so thats why live shows are important in the sense of .. if your not getting it from album sales, where else to get it from?
it's a select few that make the really big money.. partly by luck.. and sometimes partly getting the talent of others to do the work to make them "good". it's interesting writing wise who was writing a lot of the UK chart stuff, from 80's to 2000's + it was a certain click of people.. and if you mentioned their name, unless you look at writing credits it wasn't obvious
I have very little sympathy for any artist that gives "I can't make a viable living from it" as a reason for not releasing albums. Or singles. Or performing live.
i saw that, bloody stupid metallers Oo
I noticed that too, but it was the best I could find! Actually, I found it by accident. Honest ;-)
Kings Of Metal is one of the best albums of the 80's (Kingdom Come, Hail and Kill and Heart of Steel are fantastic tracks) and they actually followed it up with another great album with Triumph Of Steel. Before that, Fighting The World (it has Orson Welles on it) and Sign Of The Hammer are very decent albums. The albums before aren't bad. Post-Triumph they've been ****e.
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