XBox 360 Controller

Klepto · July 2013

I might be buying a cheap used Xbox 360 soon, but it does not have any pads with it. I already have a Wirless XBox 360 Controller for Windows. I found out that I can use the pad with the XBox as well. Will I need to buy a wireless receiver for the 360 or is the receiver built in to the Xbox or something? I have never even used an Xbox 360 before.

Wookiee · July 2013

should be fine, you'll need to sync them up though

from memory just hold down the central xbox logo button til it starts flashing and that and then the two should link up

I preferred the wired pads myself though (though the plug for the 360 and original were different)

Klepto · July 2013

Thanks mate. It's an Xbox 360 Pro 20 G. That should be alright shouldn't? I only want it for one or two games.

Wookiee · July 2013

fraid I don't know the different makes but logically they'll all work the same way

Klepto · July 2013

Wookiee wrote: »

fraid I don't know the different makes but logically they'll all work the same way

All I know is somebody told me not to get the first revision because they are more likely to develop problems.

BiNMaN · July 2013

if you do get a first revision swap out the gpu heatsink for a jasper version (you could mod the case to have a fan blowing down on the addtional heatsink), or hope that someone has reballed the gpu with lead solder

Klepto · July 2013

BiNMaN wrote: »

if you do get a first revision swap out the gpu heatsink for a jasper version (you could mod the case to have a fan blowing down on the addtional heatsink), or hope that someone has reballed the gpu with lead solder

It's an Xbox 360 Pro 20 GB. That isn't a first revision is it?

balford · July 2013

I would imagine the launch consoles are all long dead by now. I consider myself lucky to have gotten three years out of ours!

In answer to the original question - the wireless controllers for Windows are identical to the XB360 ones and are interchangeable. The wired 360 controllers aren't as far as I know.

Klepto · July 2013

Thanks for the advice guys.

BiNMaN · July 2013

Klepto wrote: »

It's an Xbox 360 Pro 20 GB. That isn't a first revision is it?

Could be, that's the model I bought have a look at the back of the console for the manufacture date then check against the board revision dates. Mind you mine has lasted 7 years so far. Yes it's died a few times but it keeps getting resurrected. The only thing I haven't had done is the reballing.

VincentAC · July 2013

Wookiee wrote: »

should be fine, you'll need to sync them up though

from memory just hold down the central xbox logo button til it starts flashing and that and then the two should link up

I preferred the wired pads myself though (though the plug for the 360 and original were different)

That doesn't usually work unless the pad has already been synced to the 360. On the console itself there should be a button on the front (on the original 360 it's next to the memory card slots), the (tiny) button on the controller is on the wee bridge bit between the shoulder buttons.

I think you need to press the pad one then the 360 one. The lights on the pad should flash in a clockwise sequence when it's finding the xbox. It'll then flash in one of the corners, and the 360 light will flash the same way.

I dunno what it's like on the newer models but I think it'd be the same but the console button will probably be in a different place.

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If the controller has a charger you could try and plug it into the 360 and it should automatically be synced. It only works with some cables though, if the charger plugs directly into the battery pack on the controller it probably won't work. Worth a try though.

Klepto · July 2013

It seems that some of the common 360 problems may be caused by overheating on the GPU. I have some Arctic Silver 5 which is a very good thermal grease for CPUs and GPUs. Would it be worth me opening it up, cleaning whatever thermal grease was used originally and applying some of that? How difficult would it be? I suppose I could also mod in an extra cooling fan in to the case.

However I am going to check to see if I have a later revision 360, if it is not one of the first ones I will probably not bother with any modding.

VincentAC · July 2013

Klepto wrote: »

However I am going to check to see if I have a later revision 360, if it is not one of the first ones I will probably not bother with any modding.

Here is a wee bit telling you the differences in models. The only thing you really need to know is the wattage and you can see that on a sticker on the back of the console.

If it's Jasper or later you shouldn't need to worry about overheating. I've been using mine everyday since I got it ~5 years ago and even in this heatwave we've got it hasn't faltered yet.

But looking at that page, you might be getting an earlier one as the Pro 20GB was last used in the revision before Jasper.

ewgf · July 2013

Do you need any help choosing the best games for the 360? If so, tell us what genres you like and we'll post which games we think are good in those categories.

For now though I'd say get Batman: Arkham Asylum and Batman: Arkham City, as they are fantastic; they mix stealth with extreme violence and a bit of thought, and are just incredible (I normally dislike stealth games, and button mashers, but the two Batman games mix these two styles so well, and add so much variation that they never becoming boring). The characters are very well defined too, you really feel like you are Batman in the Batman universe. Play Asylum before City though, as Asyulm introduces you to gadgets and concepts that City might take for granted. Plus Asylum has a better story than City, but City is less linear and has more to do.

zeropolis79 · July 2013

balford wrote: »

I would imagine the launch consoles are all long dead by now. I consider myself lucky to have gotten three years out of ours!

In answer to the original question - the wireless controllers for Windows are identical to the XB360 ones and are interchangeable. The wired 360 controllers aren't as far as I know.

My 2008 360 Pro still works..

deadpan666 · July 2013

zeropolis79 wrote: »

My 2008 360 Pro still works..

My 20GB 2008 model still works as well....and it's had a LOT of use! :D

The disc drive does stick shut if I don't leave a disc in it though, and it struggles with the newer DVD games....

Klepto · July 2013

ewgf wrote: »

Do you need any help choosing the best games for the 360? If so, tell us what genres you like and we'll post which games we think are good in those categories.

For now though I'd say get Batman: Arkham Asylum and Batman: Arkham City, as they are fantastic; they mix stealth with extreme violence and a bit of thought, and are just incredible (I normally dislike stealth games, and button mashers, but the two Batman games mix these two styles so well, and add so much variation that they never becoming boring). The characters are very well defined too, you really feel like you are Batman in the Batman universe. Play Asylum before City though, as Asyulm introduces you to gadgets and concepts that City might take for granted. Plus Asylum has a better story than City, but City is less linear and has more to do.

Well, I am mostly a PC gamer.. But some of my favourite PC games are Skyrim, Fallout 3, Deux Ex (1 & 3 are the best) and the Thief series. I suppose I don't just like straight forward FPS shooters, I like it if there is some stealth and tactics involved. I know Skyrim and Fallout 3 are on the 360, but those are best played on the PC anyway (and I do). I like all game genres really (apart from sports games), as long as they are done well.Getting this 360 is mostly to play Call of Duty 2 with my mates in England and maybe whatever else they like to play online.

VincentAC · July 2013

Klepto wrote: »

I suppose I don't just like straight forward FPS shooters, I like it if there is some stealth and tactics involved.

Splinter Cell: Conviction is a great 3rd person stealth game.

balford · July 2013

zeropolis79 wrote: »

My 2008 360 Pro still works..

That's probably a Jasper unit, which was introduced in 08 to tackle the RROD problems. Ours was the original model (bought in 06) - I'd be surprised if any of these units that have seen major usage are still alive :)

Klepto · July 2013

When it arrives I will figure out which version it is and let you know. Hopefully won't be too long.

Klepto · July 2013

Well based upon this web site:

http://www.xbox-scene.com/versions-xbox360-power-port.php

My 360 is a v3.0 Falcon.

But the manufacture date sticker on the back says 2008-11-02 and when you look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_hardware it says the Falcon was released late 2007. So does that still mean it is a Falcon?

If so should I mod it to avoid overheating problems?

ewgf · July 2013

Klepto wrote: »

Well, I am mostly a PC gamer.. But some of my favourite PC games are Skyrim, Fallout 3, Deux Ex (1 & 3 are the best) and the Thief series. I suppose I don't just like straight forward FPS shooters, I like it if there is some stealth and tactics involved. I know Skyrim and Fallout 3 are on the 360, but those are best played on the PC anyway (and I do). I like all game genres really (apart from sports games), as long as they are done well.Getting this 360 is mostly to play Call of Duty 2 with my mates in England and maybe whatever else they like to play online.

Sorry, I hadn't seen your reply. Anyway, games like Skyrim, Fallout 3 etc are great on the 360, but on the PC you can mod them, which potentially makes them much better. If a game doesn't have mods, then unless one of the ports (360 or PC) is poor then it's laregely just up to which machine you play on (plus the PC version should offer higher resolutions and frames per second). Games like Deus Ex 1 (brillaint game) and Thief 1 and 2 aren't on the 360 anyway, so the PC version is a no-brainer there. On the subject of FPSs that need extra thought, have you played the PC only No One Lives Forever 2 (a FPS, but with RPG elements, like Deux Ex)? And the PC only System Shock 2, more RPG with first person shooter elements, but it's fully realtime. The same with the PC only System Shock 1, which is difficult to run normally (it's DOS only, and needs some strange memory tweaks), and has strange (to modern gamers) controls, but thankfully someone has put together a download that includes System Shock 1, DOSBox, modernised (and definable) controls, and other stuff, and it works no problem - I can't post a link, as it's against WOS's TOS, I imagine, but google for it, or pm me.

Regarding other games you might like on the 360, we're at the point where most games are cross platform, so most 360 games are on the PC and vice versa (otherwise I'd recommed XBox 360 games like Limbo (2D platform/arcade adventure), Singularity (FPS with slight RPG elements), Dead Space 1 and 2 (not really DS 3, though you might like it) which are third person survial horror shooters, Mirror's Edge, Portal 2, The Orange Box (Portal 1, Half-Life 2, and other games), Timeshift (OK, not great), Dishonoured, Tomb Raider (the 2013 game, the only TR game I've ever liked), The Saboteur, etc.

Great games not on the PC are Perfect Dark (XBLA version, NOT Perfect Dark Zero, which is a totally different, and utterly inferior, game), it's a straight FPS, but it's the best one ever in my opinion, so I'll recommend it, Vanquish (a fast and very enjoyable third person shooter), Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Tooie (two fantastic 3D platformers, play BK first), and the fantastic Read Dead Redemption. I can't think of any more offhand, as most of the games I like on the 360 are also on the PC.

Klepto · July 2013

ewgf wrote: »

Sorry, I hadn't seen your reply. Anyway, games like Skyrim, Fallout 3 etc are great on the 360, but on the PC you can mod them, which potentially makes them much better. If a game doesn't have mods, then unless one of the ports (360 or PC) is poor then it's laregely just up to which machine you play on (plus the PC version should offer higher resolutions and frames per second). Games like Deus Ex 1 (brillaint game) and Thief 1 and 2 aren't on the 360 anyway, so the PC version is a no-brainer there. On the subject of FPSs that need extra thought, have you played the PC only No One Lives Forever 2 (a FPS, but with RPG elements, like Deux Ex)? And the PC only System Shock 2, more RPG with first person shooter elements, but it's fully realtime. The same with the PC only System Shock 1, which is difficult to run normally (it's DOS only, and needs some strange memory tweaks), and has strange (to modern gamers) controls, but thankfully someone has put together a download that includes System Shock 1, DOSBox, modernised (and definable) controls, and other stuff, and it works no problem - I can't post a link, as it's against WOS's TOS, I imagine, but google for it, or pm me.

Regarding other games you might like on the 360, we're at the point where most games are cross platform, so most 360 games are on the PC and vice versa (otherwise I'd recommed XBox 360 games like Limbo (2D platform/arcade adventure), Singularity (FPS with slight RPG elements), Dead Space 1 and 2 (not really DS 3, though you might like it) which are third person survial horror shooters, Mirror's Edge, Portal 2, The Orange Box (Portal 1, Half-Life 2, and other games), Timeshift (OK, not great), Dishonoured, Tomb Raider (the 2013 game, the only TR game I've ever liked), The Saboteur, etc.

Great games not on the PC are Perfect Dark (XBLA version, NOT Perfect Dark Zero, which is a totally different, and utterly inferior, game), it's a straight FPS, but it's the best one ever in my opinion, so I'll recommend it, Vanquish (a fast and very enjoyable third person shooter), Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Tooie (two fantastic 3D platformers, play BK first), and the fantastic Read Dead Redemption. I can't think of any more offhand, as most of the games I like on the 360 are also on the PC.

I have played System Shock 1 and 2 and yes I agree they are fantastic games. I have a dedicated DOS machine that I play that and other DOS classics on. There are some great suggestions there though, especially Perfect Dark which I think is one of the best games ever on the N64, so I will give that a go.

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