Personally I'm not 100% convinced about the real existence of outer space like stars,planets,galaxies, dark holes etc. and million of light years distances between them
I wouldn't be astonished if one day it turned that we are living in a big sphere with all this stuff displayed and animated on it just like painted cityscapes in the movies. :)
Personally I'm not 100% convinced about the real existence of outer space like stars,planets,galaxies, dark holes etc. and million of light years distances between them
I wouldn't be astonished if one day it turned that we are living in a big sphere with all this stuff displayed and animated on it just like painted cityscapes in the movies. :)
then you my son need to read Century Rain by Alastair Reynolds....in fact just read all his stuff - it's usually pretty good
I used to think there might be something in them, but to be perfectly honest I think they are exclusively the product of large teams of people.
I do admit there are still some strange elements to the mystery, but by and large I am pretty sure they are man made. Some of the "original" simple patterns may be attributable to a phenomena of some sort - but I doubt the complicated pictograms are the result of an alien intelligence. Any species with the capability to travel light years across the galaxy would hardly bother with graffiti in wheat fields! (Any more than they would crash in the Arizona Desert)
There have been far fewer crop circles this year - which I find suspicious, given that various "celebrities" in the crop circle field tried to introduce a paid permit system for visiting them. Given that the circles are mainly on private land, and are tantamount to vandalism (no matter how beautiful they may be) the Farmers got a little upset, and many have been mowing them out before anyone can get to see them. No visitors, no need to make the circles.
know what ya mean... but that award I'd give to Paul McCartney.. he looked young beyond his years for a long time.. now it's catching up
Biker friend of mine, full sleeve tattoo's, body piercings, weird stretchy holes in his ears, Mohican haircut, same age as me. Except, he isn't, just found out he is 62!!
Back in the very early 1990s I was doing a Geography degree at Southampton Uni, and there were no end of crop circles in the region (Alton Barnes particularly). Given the trend at the time in proposing vortex-related solutions to their origin (Terence Meaden's baby) I remember badgering my tutor to let me do my last years thesis on whether there was a correlation between siting of circles and topography (e.g. vortices being created in the lee of hills, with prevailing winds at the time, led to circle sites). He was quite anti this but I argued as circles were a physical effect on the landform it was a valid area of study, and eventually won him round. Only some years after did I learn that he was part of a group who used to get pissed up on a Friday night and go off and make some of the bloody things, so he knew damn well that some in my sample were total fabrication, but was unable to stop me doing the work without undermining his own credibility :D
Still, at least he had the good grace to just about pass the thesis on the basis of the effort put into it, rather than anything illuminating about the findings!
- Yes, I believe we are not alone in the universe. if it's true that life is born given the right conditions, I find it hard to believe that, between billions of planets, only this one had those conditions fulfilled.
- Egypt (and mayans, aztecs etc)! Those huge monuments. I would like to think that those were build with some "external" knowledge. It's hard to explain how civilizations separated by thousands of miles build the same monuments type, without some common origin.
- Which leads me to the following: Atlantis. I do believe it existed. And that there were survivors. And some went to south america, some went to africa. That alone could explain the common origin I've told in the previous arc (!?) and excludes the ET intrusion.
That said, the child in me wants to believe in all this crap. My head, otherwise... bah!
- Which leads me to the following: Atlantis. I do believe it existed. And that there were survivors. And some went to south america, some went to africa. That alone could explain the common origin I've told in the previous arc (!?) and excludes the ET intrusion.
That said, the child in me wants to believe in all this crap. My head, otherwise... bah!
:)
try some of Graham Hancock's books more more on that theme then - there was a series a few....well actually probably loads of years back which was interesting called Heaven's Mirror
try some of Graham Hancock's books more more on that theme then - there was a series a few....well actually probably loads of years back which was interesting called Heaven's Mirror
I have a copy of that somewhere. Should read it sometime, though I've seen enough about it not to take it too seriously. I think I knew his son at Uni, whom the book is dedicated to. Not sure they were on best terms though. But then again my parents can be frustrating at times.
Also see if you can catch a BBC2 repeat of Bettany Hughes' piece for Timewatch called 'Atlantis: The Evidence'. First off she's a darn site easier on the eye than Graham Hancock, but mainly she takes apart how little really there is to the story of Atlantis, and how the volcanic destruction of Santorini is a far more likely origin of the tale, based on the culture and the geology.
If you actually go there you can still see the red, black and white motifs in the architecture that Plato described, coming from rocks on three separate coastal cliff areas. And the concentric rings of harbours described suggest that the island was shaped by repeated volcanic activity even before 'the big one' that blew it up. The same stone colours appear in the long-lost Minoan palace of Knossos on Crete to the South, where they would have been contemporary trading partners.
I'm left with very little doubt that 'Atlantis' was a fabricated morality tale based on ancient stories of the fall of the Thiran/Minoan civilisation.
- Yes, I believe we are not alone in the universe. if it's true that life is born given the right conditions, I find it hard to believe that, between billions of planets, only this one had those conditions fulfilled.
The chance of life somewhere else seems plausible enough. But how likely is it to happen? If too unlikely, then the closest inhabited planets may be so far away, that contact wouldn't be viable.
However the idea that cutting crop and cows is the most popular form of extraterrestrial tourism... that's not exactly convincing :)
I have a copy of that somewhere. Should read it sometime, though I've seen enough about it not to take it too seriously. I think I knew his son at Uni, whom the book is dedicated to. Not sure they were on best terms though. But then again my parents can be frustrating at times.
Also see if you can catch a BBC2 repeat of Bettany Hughes' piece for Timewatch called 'Atlantis: The Evidence'. First off she's a darn site easier on the eye than Graham Hancock, but mainly she takes apart how little really there is to the story of Atlantis, and how the volcanic destruction of Santorini is a far more likely origin of the tale, based on the culture and the geology.
If you actually go there you can still see the red, black and white motifs in the architecture that Plato described, coming from rocks on three separate coastal cliff areas. And the concentric rings of harbours described suggest that the island was shaped by repeated volcanic activity even before 'the big one' that blew it up. The same stone colours appear in the long-lost Minoan palace of Knossos on Crete to the South, where they would have been contemporary trading partners.
I'm left with very little doubt that 'Atlantis' was a fabricated morality tale based on ancient stories of the fall of the Thiran/Minoan civilisation.
If you actually go there you can still see the red, black and white motifs in the architecture that Plato described, coming from rocks on three separate coastal cliff areas.
I forgot to mention, that by extraordinary coincidence, you can also observe some gorgeous knackered old Fiat/New-Holland tractors straight out of the 80s that match the ancient geomorphic colouration to a tee...
The chance of life somewhere else seems plausible enough. But how likely is it to happen? If too unlikely, then the closest inhabited planets may be so far away, that contact wouldn't be viable.
However the idea that cutting crop and cows is the most popular form of extraterrestrial tourism... that's not exactly convincing :)
Well, it really all depends of your definition of life. If you mean life forms like humans, yes, it will be really rare. If you mean more simple type of lifeforms, unicellular (I think I type it correctly) for example, should be more common.
And about the crop circles... they are nice, but I don't believe those were made by aliens or whatever. If it were only simple crops circles (one circle), I could think about it.
That said, there are countless evidence that aliens have visited earth, even more "reliable" ones :)
I'm left with very little doubt that 'Atlantis' was a fabricated morality tale based on ancient stories of the fall of the Thiran/Minoan civilisation.
That's what my head thinks also.
But how come 2 civilizations, separated by an ocean, build similar structures is a complete mistery to me. Applying Ockham's razor, or the most scientific KISS method, I can only "assume" that they have some kind of contact or common origin, or common teacher :-P
3 of my pals said they saw a UFO from a camp site in Devon.
They said they saw it moving towards them until it got a few hundred yards away, and it looked a bit like an aeroplane on fire. It then shot directly up into the sky, vertically, in the blink of an eye. Shortly after that it came down again and hovered above them for a short time, at which point it was most visible (described as a static circular form with a light rotating around it - the stereotype!), before shooting off towards the horizon, again, again in the blink of an eye. They're pretty sensible regular guys (not silver-foil hat wearing loons or WUMs so no jokes about west-country types being at the scrumpy!), and couldn't figure out what it could have been.
One of them posted a description on a UFO reporting site to see if he could get an explanation from anyone else, but didn't get one. I guess it was just the movement (motionless hovering , followed by blinding movement seemingly with no acceleration required to reach top speed). I wouldn't be too surprised if there's some pretty flash airborne technology around that we haven't seen, but I'd like to know what it was. Normally I'm a bit sceptical about these stories, but it's different when you hear it from someone very trustworthy.
But how come 2 civilizations, separated by an ocean, build similar structures is a complete mistery to me. Applying Ockham's razor, or the most scientific KISS method, I can only "assume" that they have some kind of contact or common origin, or common teacher :-P
It's because, with a complete lack of knowledge of engineering, a pyramid is about the only complex structure you can build on that sort of scale. Anything else would be prone to collapse without an understanding of the internal forces.
Besides, the merest glance at them will tell you that there's little in common architecturally between a Mexican and Egyptian pyramid other than the basic shape.
I like Alice Roberts too though, although she has a very odd way of pronouncing certain words. "I'm going to areauowze you. Take off your treauowzers!"
It's because, with a complete lack of knowledge of engineering, a pyramid is about the only complex structure you can build on that sort of scale. Anything else would be prone to collapse without an understanding of the internal forces.
Besides, the merest glance at them will tell you that there's little in common architecturally between a Mexican and Egyptian pyramid other than the basic shape.
Yes, I know they are not similar. I was talking about the shape :)
But you're probably right. I mean, who would believe that pyramids are landing platforms for alien ships? :-P
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ya been feeding him some of ya curry http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/4934930/keanu-reeves-shock-weight-gain.html
know what ya mean... but that award I'd give to Paul McCartney.. he looked young beyond his years for a long time.. now it's catching up
Yeah, but there's still nothing that couldn't be fixed by a bit of soft focus and airbrushing.
I wouldn't be astonished if one day it turned that we are living in a big sphere with all this stuff displayed and animated on it just like painted cityscapes in the movies. :)
then you my son need to read Century Rain by Alastair Reynolds....in fact just read all his stuff - it's usually pretty good
I used to think there might be something in them, but to be perfectly honest I think they are exclusively the product of large teams of people.
I do admit there are still some strange elements to the mystery, but by and large I am pretty sure they are man made. Some of the "original" simple patterns may be attributable to a phenomena of some sort - but I doubt the complicated pictograms are the result of an alien intelligence. Any species with the capability to travel light years across the galaxy would hardly bother with graffiti in wheat fields! (Any more than they would crash in the Arizona Desert)
There have been far fewer crop circles this year - which I find suspicious, given that various "celebrities" in the crop circle field tried to introduce a paid permit system for visiting them. Given that the circles are mainly on private land, and are tantamount to vandalism (no matter how beautiful they may be) the Farmers got a little upset, and many have been mowing them out before anyone can get to see them. No visitors, no need to make the circles.
Once again - draw your own conclusions!
Biker friend of mine, full sleeve tattoo's, body piercings, weird stretchy holes in his ears, Mohican haircut, same age as me. Except, he isn't, just found out he is 62!!
Still, at least he had the good grace to just about pass the thesis on the basis of the effort put into it, rather than anything illuminating about the findings!
Also, the unselfish politician.
- Yes, I believe we are not alone in the universe. if it's true that life is born given the right conditions, I find it hard to believe that, between billions of planets, only this one had those conditions fulfilled.
- Egypt (and mayans, aztecs etc)! Those huge monuments. I would like to think that those were build with some "external" knowledge. It's hard to explain how civilizations separated by thousands of miles build the same monuments type, without some common origin.
- Which leads me to the following: Atlantis. I do believe it existed. And that there were survivors. And some went to south america, some went to africa. That alone could explain the common origin I've told in the previous arc (!?) and excludes the ET intrusion.
That said, the child in me wants to believe in all this crap. My head, otherwise... bah!
:)
Just down the probability scale from rocking-horse sh?t and a working copy of Mire Mare selling for 99p on ebay.
try some of Graham Hancock's books more more on that theme then - there was a series a few....well actually probably loads of years back which was interesting called Heaven's Mirror
I'm on it. Thanks :)
Also see if you can catch a BBC2 repeat of Bettany Hughes' piece for Timewatch called 'Atlantis: The Evidence'. First off she's a darn site easier on the eye than Graham Hancock, but mainly she takes apart how little really there is to the story of Atlantis, and how the volcanic destruction of Santorini is a far more likely origin of the tale, based on the culture and the geology.
If you actually go there you can still see the red, black and white motifs in the architecture that Plato described, coming from rocks on three separate coastal cliff areas. And the concentric rings of harbours described suggest that the island was shaped by repeated volcanic activity even before 'the big one' that blew it up. The same stone colours appear in the long-lost Minoan palace of Knossos on Crete to the South, where they would have been contemporary trading partners.
I'm left with very little doubt that 'Atlantis' was a fabricated morality tale based on ancient stories of the fall of the Thiran/Minoan civilisation.
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The chance of life somewhere else seems plausible enough. But how likely is it to happen? If too unlikely, then the closest inhabited planets may be so far away, that contact wouldn't be viable.
However the idea that cutting crop and cows is the most popular form of extraterrestrial tourism... that's not exactly convincing :)
good shout
Plato would be well impressed.
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Mmmmmm, Bettany Hughes... she can excavate my column any day, etc
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Misread that as "colon" ... chuckled a bit then went "Eeeew!"
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Well, it really all depends of your definition of life. If you mean life forms like humans, yes, it will be really rare. If you mean more simple type of lifeforms, unicellular (I think I type it correctly) for example, should be more common.
And about the crop circles... they are nice, but I don't believe those were made by aliens or whatever. If it were only simple crops circles (one circle), I could think about it.
That said, there are countless evidence that aliens have visited earth, even more "reliable" ones :)
That's what my head thinks also.
But how come 2 civilizations, separated by an ocean, build similar structures is a complete mistery to me. Applying Ockham's razor, or the most scientific KISS method, I can only "assume" that they have some kind of contact or common origin, or common teacher :-P
;)
They said they saw it moving towards them until it got a few hundred yards away, and it looked a bit like an aeroplane on fire. It then shot directly up into the sky, vertically, in the blink of an eye. Shortly after that it came down again and hovered above them for a short time, at which point it was most visible (described as a static circular form with a light rotating around it - the stereotype!), before shooting off towards the horizon, again, again in the blink of an eye. They're pretty sensible regular guys (not silver-foil hat wearing loons or WUMs so no jokes about west-country types being at the scrumpy!), and couldn't figure out what it could have been.
One of them posted a description on a UFO reporting site to see if he could get an explanation from anyone else, but didn't get one. I guess it was just the movement (motionless hovering , followed by blinding movement seemingly with no acceleration required to reach top speed). I wouldn't be too surprised if there's some pretty flash airborne technology around that we haven't seen, but I'd like to know what it was. Normally I'm a bit sceptical about these stories, but it's different when you hear it from someone very trustworthy.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drsz5mn8kx4
Anyone care to comment?
It's because, with a complete lack of knowledge of engineering, a pyramid is about the only complex structure you can build on that sort of scale. Anything else would be prone to collapse without an understanding of the internal forces.
Besides, the merest glance at them will tell you that there's little in common architecturally between a Mexican and Egyptian pyramid other than the basic shape.
Mmmmmmmmm, Charlotte-Uhlenbroek-in-a-wetsuit... *drifts off*
I like Alice Roberts too though, although she has a very odd way of pronouncing certain words. "I'm going to areauowze you. Take off your treauowzers!"
Yes, I know they are not similar. I was talking about the shape :)
But you're probably right. I mean, who would believe that pyramids are landing platforms for alien ships? :-P