T'Pau's Carol Decker has responded to Gary Barlow's negative comments about her on tonight's X Factor.
Amelia Lily performed the band's 1987 hit 'China in Your Hand' during the show, prompting Barlow to quip that it was nice to hear the song being sung in tune for once.
"Gary Barlow you t**t! & I had to suffer a Take That concert for the sake of my kids this summer," Decker wrote on her Twitter page.
She then tweeted Barlow directly, asking: "What's your f**king problem? I actually have perfect pitch."
'China in Your Hand', which was written by Decker, was on T'Pau's album Bridge of Spies and spent five weeks at number one following its release.
The X Factor contestants are performing two tracks tonight as they battle it out for a place in next weekend's semi-final.
Just been wathcing loads of TNG quite recently funnily enough. Its not the last word in drama, but very enjoyable nontheless. I'm not so keen on the klingon episodes but I love Q stories and his interaction with Picard.Great fun!
Favourite other eps that spring to mind are 'Timescape, the most toys, out of phase, ship in a bottle and conundrum.
I have seen one episode of voyager ages ago and I enjoyed it. Really liked the Dr character. I think the plot revolved around three people being kept unconscious by some entity which manifested intself as a type of harlequin. Dunno why I never caught up with any more, I must do if they're as good.
Also I recorded Enterprise the other day and thought the pvr had recorded the wrong thing. The intro erm..song has.. singing..!, Just seems strange for Star Trek. Not watched a full ep yet and never seen one iota of DS9, though I would like to, seeing as I'm led to believe it has TNG characters in it.
Problem with Voyager was the female characters (Janeway, Torres) were strong and the males were weak. After 7 of 9 joined as well the males all kind of shrivelled up.
Really? I thought Janeway the weakest captain of them all. She tried to do the right thing, episode after episode, and it was obvious. Picard, Archer, Kirk and Sisko did the right thing without apparent effort. She was certainly overshadowed by Torres and 7 of 9 - nobody ever did that to Shatner or Bakula, Stewart or Brooks. Not to take anything away from Kate Mulgrew, she's a fine actress, but the character of Janeway simply wasn't that strong.
Trek got darker after GR's death. Samey? Not so sure I agree 100% with that so much, but it deffo got darker. I think the writers dared to try new stuff that GR just wouldn't have accepted. They seemed to find a storyline that worked, and explored various avenues of the same plot - but that's true of any soap opera, and star trek, especially Voyager and DS9 is a soap - just set in space.
I'd love to know what GR would have thought of the rebooted version of Star Trek - I understand why they did it, but tbh I think it a mistake. For example, Into Darkness was stunning visually, but the storyline was nowhere near as good as Star Trek II, The Wrath of Kahn.
Only Shatner can play Kirk the way he was supposed to be played, and despite T J Hooker being Kirk with a gun rather than a phaser, there is only one James T Kirk, and it's William Shatner. It's like somebody else playing Spock - what you have with the rebooted version, isn't "Spock" - it's an actor playing Leonard Nimoy playing the part of Spock. He does it well, but he's not playing Spock, he's simply impersonating Nimoy. Again, no disrespect to the actor, it's just that there is only one Spock - and that's Nimoy.
With TNG, I think they were damned lucky to get Patrick Stewart interested - I don't think it would have been anything like as good without his amazing talent.
Enterprise: In my opinion the best Star Trek ever made, there was so much scope there for future episodes (the eugenic wars - often mentioned, never gone into in any detail for example), and laying foundations for the future - that was Kirk's Star Trek - and all totally wasted because America either didn't get it, or didn't like it.
I think i only liked Voyager because of Seven of Nine's big boobies!:lol:
Never got into Enterprise, i watched half of the first season but just couldn't get into it.
Didn't like TOS much either, i thought it looked dated now.
There were a number of problems with TOS. It was a product of its time and very forward thinking when it was made, but some of the attitudes now look quite dated. There was one episode in particular where Scotty was in love with a woman and they almost exclusively referred to her as "The Girl" throughout the episode. I found it very irritating and if somebody saw that episode as their first experience of Star Trek:TOS they might be put off.
Another problem was that it was sold to the networks as "Wagon Train to the Stars". Wagon Train being a very popular western series at the time. DeForest Kelly was in the cast as he'd been in a few westerns before so it potentially helped some of the audience cross over to the new genre. If Gene Roddenberry hadn't of been there to insist on a few things we wouldn't have even had Mr Spock. From the pilot the networks wanted him to drop 'The guy with the ears', Spock, and not have a female Number One (Majel Barrett, who went on to be Nurse Chappel in TOS, Lwaxana Troi in TNG & DS9 and the computer voice pretty much everywhere else). He said something like "So, I kept the guy with the ears and slipped some strong female characters in later" :)
TNG was very enjoyable and a lot of the episodes were very good indeed.
Good characters that grew as the seasons progressed, the interplay between Picard, Data, Riker, Troi etc was usually spot on.
As others have stated, any episode with Q in was usually gold, and the introduction of The Borg was great.
I brought all the TNG on DVD as boxed sets a few years back. :)
Nice. Where did you bring them? :)
TNG is my favourite of the Star Trek series too. Among the best eps are Clues, Conundrum, and Cause and Effect. (Interesting how they all begin with 'C'. Must be a thing.) Worst eps are undoubtedly Shades of Gray and Sub Rosa.
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I never knew the names of any of the episodes, and had to look them up.
The thing I find is, all the more interesting ones are at some level hopelessly contrived. Conundrum is a good plot, but a bit too obviously signposted, and how does an alien come up with the ability to wipe memories, including that of a completely unique android, and re-program all those computers, in an instant, from a position where they're a century behind the equivalent weapons technology?
I also quite like Masks for how it brings out Picard's hobby of archaeology, though again it's a plot contrived around the characters. Enterprise was far, far better in pushing characters outside of their typical comfort zones.
The one I do like for stretching some of the characters was Yesterday's Enterprise, where the long-dead Tasha Yar re-appears because of a screwed-up time loop.
But I still prefer DS9 for the ongoing development of characters and plots. And I had a thing for Major Kira at the time.
i remember reading an article about tasha yar and data. it reckoned that their brief love affair wasnt to explore that story line, but was a studio decision because data was a very a-sexual character and tasha could be seen as a lesbian. so they nipped it in the bud early on.
rodenberry himself said he wanted a gay character on the next generation, but that never happened.
Really? I thought Janeway the weakest captain of them all.
I was comparing her to the Voyager crew, I agree she wasnt as good as Picard or Sisko.
Trek got darker after GR's death.
Yup. TOS was borne of an era of idealism, i think people had got a bit cynical by the 90s and VOY/DS9 reflected that. They got darker visually as well - the coloured uniforms gradually gave way to black and grey, and the bright white ships were toned down a bit as well reflecting the overall change in mood.
Best TNG ep's mostly already mentioned: Cause & Effect, Yesterdays Enterprise, Clues. I'll add Best of Both Worlds to that.
Which TNG episode was it where they travelled outside of the bounds of the universe, all the crew starting hallucinating, and outside the bounds of the universe was like wobbly blue spheres floating in space? I watched that episode on magic mushrooms lol ;)
Which TNG episode was it where they travelled outside of the bounds of the universe, all the crew starting hallucinating, and outside the bounds of the universe was like wobbly blue spheres floating in space? I watched that episode on magic mushrooms lol ;)
Its likely to be one of these 2:- 'Where no one has gone before'- the enterprise travels to another galaxy, then further still (blue swirly things) Or 'night terrors' where the crew are deprived of rem sleep and start to hallucinate before going mad. (Troi haS a dream with blue swirly things I think)
It was "Where no one has gone before" (EDIT: I think anyway, I remember a scene where one of the automatic doors opened and it was all on fire, and the weird blue stuff outside the windows). First time I watched TV on mushrooms I think. It was just what was on at the time, freaky things like that tend to happen ;)
Sadly we were in the pub when the episode of Neighbours was on where Jim and Harold went to the bush, got lost and had a hallucinogenic mushroom adventure :(
EDIT: I think we decided to stay in and watch TV after the other times where we did ridiculous things like: read Furry Freak Brothers comics, go and see Hawkwind, etc.
The thing I find is, all the more interesting ones are at some level hopelessly contrived. Conundrum is a good plot, but a bit too obviously signposted,.
Curiously enough, Conundrum worked especially well for me as it was the very first episode I ever saw. The alien imposter McDuff was, as far as I was concerned a regular member of the crew being as they were all new faces, so I was as much in the dark about him as the rest of the crew!
Yeah, I'll go with that! A great example of how good an actor he is. A brilliant episode.
Some of my other favorite episodes are "Brothers" (the introduction of Lore. Data's brother), the two with Moriarty (Ship in a Bottle has already been mentioned) The one with a virus that turns the crew into primitive life forms and Worf becomes a monster like creature and the one with the Hotel that's rerunning a story from a book. I love that episode! It's an early one too :)
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t'pau was her mother. ;)
Favourite other eps that spring to mind are 'Timescape, the most toys, out of phase, ship in a bottle and conundrum.
I have seen one episode of voyager ages ago and I enjoyed it. Really liked the Dr character. I think the plot revolved around three people being kept unconscious by some entity which manifested intself as a type of harlequin. Dunno why I never caught up with any more, I must do if they're as good.
Also I recorded Enterprise the other day and thought the pvr had recorded the wrong thing. The intro erm..song has.. singing..!, Just seems strange for Star Trek. Not watched a full ep yet and never seen one iota of DS9, though I would like to, seeing as I'm led to believe it has TNG characters in it.
No. T'Les was her mother
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Really? I thought Janeway the weakest captain of them all. She tried to do the right thing, episode after episode, and it was obvious. Picard, Archer, Kirk and Sisko did the right thing without apparent effort. She was certainly overshadowed by Torres and 7 of 9 - nobody ever did that to Shatner or Bakula, Stewart or Brooks. Not to take anything away from Kate Mulgrew, she's a fine actress, but the character of Janeway simply wasn't that strong.
Trek got darker after GR's death. Samey? Not so sure I agree 100% with that so much, but it deffo got darker. I think the writers dared to try new stuff that GR just wouldn't have accepted. They seemed to find a storyline that worked, and explored various avenues of the same plot - but that's true of any soap opera, and star trek, especially Voyager and DS9 is a soap - just set in space.
I'd love to know what GR would have thought of the rebooted version of Star Trek - I understand why they did it, but tbh I think it a mistake. For example, Into Darkness was stunning visually, but the storyline was nowhere near as good as Star Trek II, The Wrath of Kahn.
Only Shatner can play Kirk the way he was supposed to be played, and despite T J Hooker being Kirk with a gun rather than a phaser, there is only one James T Kirk, and it's William Shatner. It's like somebody else playing Spock - what you have with the rebooted version, isn't "Spock" - it's an actor playing Leonard Nimoy playing the part of Spock. He does it well, but he's not playing Spock, he's simply impersonating Nimoy. Again, no disrespect to the actor, it's just that there is only one Spock - and that's Nimoy.
With TNG, I think they were damned lucky to get Patrick Stewart interested - I don't think it would have been anything like as good without his amazing talent.
Enterprise: In my opinion the best Star Trek ever made, there was so much scope there for future episodes (the eugenic wars - often mentioned, never gone into in any detail for example), and laying foundations for the future - that was Kirk's Star Trek - and all totally wasted because America either didn't get it, or didn't like it.
Rant over, I await the flames :P
Another problem was that it was sold to the networks as "Wagon Train to the Stars". Wagon Train being a very popular western series at the time. DeForest Kelly was in the cast as he'd been in a few westerns before so it potentially helped some of the audience cross over to the new genre. If Gene Roddenberry hadn't of been there to insist on a few things we wouldn't have even had Mr Spock. From the pilot the networks wanted him to drop 'The guy with the ears', Spock, and not have a female Number One (Majel Barrett, who went on to be Nurse Chappel in TOS, Lwaxana Troi in TNG & DS9 and the computer voice pretty much everywhere else). He said something like "So, I kept the guy with the ears and slipped some strong female characters in later" :)
Good characters that grew as the seasons progressed, the interplay between Picard, Data, Riker, Troi etc was usually spot on.
As others have stated, any episode with Q in was usually gold, and the introduction of The Borg was great.
Sub Rosa was a pile of sh*t though :-)
TNG is my favourite of the Star Trek series too. Among the best eps are Clues, Conundrum, and Cause and Effect. (Interesting how they all begin with 'C'. Must be a thing.) Worst eps are undoubtedly Shades of Gray and Sub Rosa.
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The thing I find is, all the more interesting ones are at some level hopelessly contrived. Conundrum is a good plot, but a bit too obviously signposted, and how does an alien come up with the ability to wipe memories, including that of a completely unique android, and re-program all those computers, in an instant, from a position where they're a century behind the equivalent weapons technology?
I also quite like Masks for how it brings out Picard's hobby of archaeology, though again it's a plot contrived around the characters. Enterprise was far, far better in pushing characters outside of their typical comfort zones.
The one I do like for stretching some of the characters was Yesterday's Enterprise, where the long-dead Tasha Yar re-appears because of a screwed-up time loop.
But I still prefer DS9 for the ongoing development of characters and plots. And I had a thing for Major Kira at the time.
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rodenberry himself said he wanted a gay character on the next generation, but that never happened.
although it did have blokes wearing skirts. :D
I was comparing her to the Voyager crew, I agree she wasnt as good as Picard or Sisko.
Yup. TOS was borne of an era of idealism, i think people had got a bit cynical by the 90s and VOY/DS9 reflected that. They got darker visually as well - the coloured uniforms gradually gave way to black and grey, and the bright white ships were toned down a bit as well reflecting the overall change in mood.
Best TNG ep's mostly already mentioned: Cause & Effect, Yesterdays Enterprise, Clues. I'll add Best of Both Worlds to that.
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Its likely to be one of these 2:- 'Where no one has gone before'- the enterprise travels to another galaxy, then further still (blue swirly things) Or 'night terrors' where the crew are deprived of rem sleep and start to hallucinate before going mad. (Troi haS a dream with blue swirly things I think)
Sadly we were in the pub when the episode of Neighbours was on where Jim and Harold went to the bush, got lost and had a hallucinogenic mushroom adventure :(
EDIT: I think we decided to stay in and watch TV after the other times where we did ridiculous things like: read Furry Freak Brothers comics, go and see Hawkwind, etc.
Curiously enough, Conundrum worked especially well for me as it was the very first episode I ever saw. The alien imposter McDuff was, as far as I was concerned a regular member of the crew being as they were all new faces, so I was as much in the dark about him as the rest of the crew!
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Yes that one. Rewatched this ep the other week and it was a bit unsettling:D
EDIT: Boring, he should have Fus Ro Dah'd the Devil from Time Bandits?
They should be called Scientific Mushrooms or Chemical Mushrooms.
Mushrooms with a hallucigenic ingredient that make you hallucinate, fairly obvious.
Magic mushrooms should grow into flying space ships like james and the giant peach or, run about avoiding irate Italian plumbers or something.
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Yeah, I'll go with that! A great example of how good an actor he is. A brilliant episode.
Some of my other favorite episodes are "Brothers" (the introduction of Lore. Data's brother), the two with Moriarty (Ship in a Bottle has already been mentioned) The one with a virus that turns the crew into primitive life forms and Worf becomes a monster like creature and the one with the Hotel that's rerunning a story from a book. I love that episode! It's an early one too :)