ebay doing it's best to alienate sellers?

fog · May 2014

does seem that way , what with the death of 99p listing and *35p* per thing.. WTF.. really great for a 99p items

also the news about it being hacked, and them not letting on and really don't seem "none plused" . I don't recall giving them permission to give out my info to random 3rd parties.

Your Spec-chum · May 2014

As I mentioned in another thread, I was not happy with the next to no information of the hack on their site. I only know about it by watching the evening news.

I thought for a while, with there being a lot of hype in the news/media and little info on their site. Was this like when the media made a big stink and caused panic with the recent Heartbleed hack, which only affected some sites.

thx1138 · May 2014

they've been ****e for years, rarely use them

sj_howlett · May 2014

All this online hacking business and passwords being compromised seems to be getting worse. I've personally never been a victim, but I must admit to being concerned. These companies have a duty to protect their customers and also admit when something has happened... Fast!

yadster · May 2014

A combination of eBays greed (they now even get a cut of your postage costs as well) plus Royal Mails increased prices, especially anything over 2KG, makes selling less enticing. I have a few heavy items I could do with shifting but I nearly choked when I worked out the postage costs. Unfortunately myhermes have in my experience been ruddy awful as have some of the other courier services.

Matt_B · May 2014

Given that the passwords will have been stored encrypted, it's not necessarily the end of the world if hackers get hold of them. You just need to ensure that you've got something sufficiently complex to avoid being brute-forced.

richl · May 2014

Normally I'd be first in the queue to knock eBay for introducing yet another new policy but, to be honest, I'm happy to swap 100 free 99p auctions per month for 20 Buy-It-Nows per month. For the most part auctions have had their day but Buy-It-Nows are what buyers want/expect and they're a lot less hassle from a selling point of view... well, mostly.

I've nearly lost the will to live trying to sell off my tapes individually so being able to start bundles at higher than 99p and not have to pay for it and also put the odd "decent" title on at a set price is all good as far as I'm concerned. If you're doing 100 auctions per month every month then I guess eBay (and potentially HMRC) see you as more of a business. At the very least it should cut down on some of the junk that gets listed and re-listed ad infinitum.

As for the passwords fiasco.... well, I hope the FBI investigation into why they took so long to bother mentioning the hacking ends up with them getting their backsides well and truly kicked and they're fined millions of dollars. Perhaps they could pay via PayPal?

It's not the passwords that's the worry really, though, it's all the other info that's stored with them that's NOT encrypted such as names, addresses, phone numbers etc. All stuff that the unscrupulous can use to do God-knows-what with. Maybe they should be suggesting everyone changes their names instead of their passwords? :lol:

Antiriad2097 · May 2014

Names, addresses and phone numbers. And to think they're usually such secure things, not published in big books or in online directories or anything ;)

If its not in the phone book, there are electoral rolls and all sorts of other sources for what is fairly public, easily accessible info. Hacking ebay is really a rather long winded way of getting it.

richl · May 2014

Antiriad2097 wrote: »

Names, addresses and phone numbers. And to think they're usually such secure things, not published in big books or in online directories or anything ;)

If its not in the phone book, there are electoral rolls and all sorts of other sources for what is fairly public, easily accessible info. Hacking ebay is really a rather long winded way of getting it.

I wish I lived in your happy little world :)

"Hi. I'm a hacker phoning from abroad. Could you give me millions upon millions of verified names, addresses, phone numbers, email address and any other information you might have stored on your systems? What do I want them for? Errr... Well, I've been told they're easily available but if it's too much hassle for you to just give them me...."

rwap · May 2014

Well, now's your chance to make use of the features and low fees on www.sellmyretro.com

Actually I have pretty much stopped selling on ebay due to the high fees and people moaning about the postage costs being higher than the actual stamp price (which I had to increase by 11% to cover ebay's 10% on the fees, plus of course, PayPal take 3.4%)

I now sell more membranes through sellmyretro than I do through ebay. :)

JonB · May 2014

What are the fees then, Rich?

rwap · May 2014

SellMyRetro fees - are basically free listing fees (even if you add a reserve price and a buy it now price to an auction listing), and just 2.5% final value fee.

The only additional fees are if you want to have your listing featured on the home or category pages, or have it shown in bold.

www.sellmyretro.com/fee

Amfoot · May 2014

Since banning me last month, eBay seem to have gone mad: I'd be furious about the new final fees including the postal charge, and the change to get rid of the free 100 listings at 99p is pretty poor value for any one listing more than 20 items a month. And they've been hacked. That will teach them to ban me, grrr.... !!

leespoons · May 2014

I got an email last night from eBay - "Please change your password IMMEDIATELY!" Only five days late...

If I sent all my eBay orders out five days late I'd be banned faster than you can say "Devin Wenig"

fog · May 2014

Amfoot wrote: »

Since banning me last month, eBay seem to have gone mad: I'd be furious about the new final fees including the postal charge, and the change to get rid of the free 100 listings at 99p is pretty poor value for any one listing more than 20 items a month. And they've been hacked. That will teach them to ban me, grrr.... !!

but it's more than likely 20 items a month *BUT* it's free to relist when you tick a box. should make it 80 (re-list 3 times)
they have a thing where they have to keep listings above a certain level. I notice when you get a silly amount of free listings in a month.
the postage thing , you can thank the folk who took the p*** with postage charges for that, listing the item for 1p and the rest for ?10.

have been working a lot, so can't put in the time with ebay and even if I do it feels like it's not worth the effort.

Amfoot · May 2014

I have to say getting off eBay (albeit not by choice!) has been a bit of a god-send: I now spend less time on the pc and stuffing things in envelopes for marginal profit. Discogs sales have been pretty good so far, with much lower fees and no need to relist. The only downside is all the non-CD items I've amassed that I can't shift online for now - magazines, books, etc.

I think eBay are trying to reinvent themselves as an equivalent to Amazon and are moving away from the whole small private seller / auction market anyway, so I really wouldn't be surprised if another site picks up that market fairly soon.

Quite right about the postal costs as mentioned above though: I used to charge at cost (?1.50 in UK for a CD) so a final fee on that wouldn't be the worst thing except if you're selling in bulk. For those charging stupid postal costs, then it might dissuade them ....?

ebay doing it's best to alienate sellers?

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