Computer Magazine Listings

I was browsing through some really old multi format computer magazines and found some Speccy game listings. They were popular during the first half of the 80s and then seemed to suddenly disappear.

Did we get tired of them? I personally found them to be a great source of free software, plus it helped me learn how to program.
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  • edited August 2014
    sj_howlett wrote: »
    I was browsing through some really old multi format computer magazines and found some Speccy game listings. They were popular during the first half of the 80s and then seemed to suddenly disappear.

    Did we get tired of them? I personally found them to be a great source of free software, plus it helped me learn how to program.

    I was the same, spent hours typing in programs and learnt the fundamentals of good/bad programming. I did not just look at ZX Spectrum BASIC listings either, I was happy to scan others machines for interesting ideas. One of my favourite magazines was Personal Computer World and I even had one of my own wee programs published there as "Program of the Month". :D

    Paddy
  • edited August 2014
    I suspect the gap between commercial quality and type in quality grew too big and people no longer wanted to spend half an hour or more banging away at their keyboard for something which looked poor in comparison.

    Spent many an hour with a friend playing a game on the ZX-81 we typed in, no idea what it was called but you went down a mine shaft (or an asterix representing you did) and dug for gold as the water slowly rose and got out before you died for the best points.
  • edited August 2014
    RobeeeJay wrote: »
    I suspect the gap between commercial quality and type in quality grew too big and people no longer wanted to spend half an hour or more banging away at their keyboard for something which looked poor in comparison.

    I think you've summarised the situation spot on. The quality of commercial Speccy software grew fast in a short space of time. Eventually the gap became to much.
    RobeeeJay wrote: »
    Spent many an hour with a friend playing a game on the ZX-81 we typed in, no idea what it was called but you went down a mine shaft (or an asterix representing you did) and dug for gold as the water slowly rose and got out before you died for the best points.

    That seems familiar to me. I wonder if there is an archive on the Internet specifically for Sinclair related listings?
  • edited August 2014
    Some of the games printed Your Computer were commercial quality and in fact some were released commercially.
    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
  • edited August 2014
    At least in case of the Spanish Microhobby magazine, BASIC gave way to huge machine code listings that required a special loader to verify checksums. Some of those games (and routines) were of quite good quality. The special editions were amazing in that regard, and taught me a lot.

    /Pedro
  • edited August 2014
    sj_howlett wrote: »
    I wonder if there is an archive on the Internet specifically for Sinclair related listings?

    Have you tried Type Fantastic?
    Link here
  • edited August 2014
    Paul-J wrote: »
    Have you tried Type Fantastic?
    Link here

    How cool! I wasn't aware of that site. I think I can help the author with a couple of missing pieces too 😀
  • edited August 2014
    RobeeeJay wrote: »
    I suspect the gap between commercial quality and type in quality grew too big and people no longer wanted to spend half an hour or more banging away at their keyboard for something which looked poor in comparison.

    I don't think so. It was a change in the market that caused the focus of magazines to shift. Before 1982/1983 it was a hobby market made up of people who wanted to program and tinker with electronics. That group was overwhelmed by the much larger number of new buyers who were only really interested in games. That's when the magazines changed -- SU became a gaming magazine and Crash/YS were purely about games and entertainment.

    Sinclair was large enough to support one hobby magazine in the english speaking market (ZX Computing) and I'm surprised how long it lasted but it looks like most other hobby magazines survived by becoming muti-format, which unfortunately usually means less ambitious topics.
  • edited August 2014
    I never saw one hobby magazine or good article about spectrum machine code cos I was born in 78 so only became old enough to buy magazines and understand them after they had disappeared.
  • edited August 2014
    sj_howlett wrote: »
    How cool! I wasn't aware of that site. I think I can help the author with a couple of missing pieces too ��

    It's about time that I did another update, so get any missing typed-up type-ins that you've got sent in to my email address at The Type Fantastic and I'll include them in an update at the end of this month.
  • edited August 2014
    I think that occasional typing errors in some of the listings didn't help, I can remember typing out a listing for an adventure game in Input only to find that the game didn't work :(

    I think Input did include sections on typing mistakes in it's later magazines.
  • edited August 2014
    sj_howlett wrote: »
    That seems familiar to me. I wonder if there is an archive on the Internet specifically for Sinclair related listings?

    Just went through the first 25 issues of Sinclair User looking at the program listings, and the four annuals, nothing there that looked like it. :/

    Maybe it was from another magazine, I used to get a few.
  • edited August 2014
    And suddenly, I found it thanks to that site with all the listings on!!!!

    Miner by Philip Turner, from Sinclair Programs!
    http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~jg27paw4/type-ins/sincprog/sp8402.zip
  • edited August 2014
    karingal wrote: »
    Some of the games printed Your Computer were commercial quality and in fact some were released commercially.

    I remember typing in a VIC-20 listing for a snake game (back when such things were fairly new, I expect) from YC, and it was a really neat little thing, especially when a month or two later the mag printed an alteration that allowed joystick control.

    Most of the other efforts I eventually typed in were not memorable. Hmm, except one: Tony Crowther did a listing for a mag, Commodore User maybe, perhaps called Baby Monty. You controlled a small mole in a rowing boat, you had to row left and right to go through gaps in platforms as water rose.

    Between printing errors, the low quality of most BASIC games, and boredom from typing, I gave up bothering. As has been noted, the quality of even budget games rose quickly, and when I got my first job I had more spare cash, so there wasn't much need for games listings.
  • edited August 2014
    RobeeeJay wrote: »
    And suddenly, I found it thanks to that site with all the listings on!!!!

    Miner by Philip Turner, from Sinclair Programs!
    http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~jg27paw4/type-ins/sincprog/sp8402.zip

    Nice little game, thanks for sharing. The sort of thing I think I'd have spent a lot of time on too. Having came onto the Spectrum scene late (Christmas 1989 or 1990, I can't quite remember) I feel I missed out on the glory days of the early 1980s. I was too young then anyway. Before the Spectrum we had a Commodore 16, with which I enjoyed dabbling a bit using BASIC, despite my young age at the time.
  • edited August 2014
    The type in magazine listing came about in the early 80s (imo) primarily because as well as a lack of available software, nobody knew at the time what to do with a computer. Also although you could get commercial software,in the early days it was mostly sold by mail order only.
  • LCDLCD
    edited August 2014
    "Happy Computer" was my favourite type-in magazine. I still have all issues. It was multiformat and had nice Spectrum and C64 type-in's (German: "Listing").
    Later Listings were less (and for Atari ST and Amiga, but you could got much better Freware on disc without typing anything), too much PC stuff so many people moveed to other magazines. "Happy Computer" turned into a PC-only magazine and soon disappeared.
    There are also other cool type-in Magazines in Germany:
    "Computer Kontakt", "Homecomputer", "C.P.U.", "Computronic" and others.
  • edited August 2014
    LCD wrote: »
    "Happy Computer" was my favourite type-in magazine. I still have all issues. It was multiformat and had nice Spectrum and C64 type-in's (German: "Listing").
    Later Listings were less (and for Atari ST and Amiga, but you could got much better Freware on disc without typing anything), too much PC stuff so many people moveed to other magazines. "Happy Computer" turned into a PC-only magazine and soon disappeared.
    I think that happened for many magazines when people started to move on to the 16bits, Your Computer here in the UK comes immediately to mind before it finally went bust. Also though some dropped listings completely before the likes of the ST and the Amiga came along, C&VG deciding to become purely a games review mag sometime in the mid 80s for example.
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