What's so great about FROZEN? [shpoilersh!]

edited August 2014 in Chit chat
I mean, Disney can and have done a lot better. I guess kids like it, because they'd lap up anything where they've been saturated with merchandise for it for the past year or so, but I just wasn't thrilled. It tries to be clever, but in the way a four-year-old might try to mis-direct an adult; i.e. painfully obvious and poorly.

So it's got a song that starts well, but they can't be @rsed to actually even sing the last line of the chorus; it's just spoken. Who wrote that, Shatner?

So it has two princesses, and a subtext that'll make a whole lot more sense when half the audience hit their tweens, and the snowman is cleverly done (with his song about looking forward to summer) but everything else is just dumb and rushed.

"You're getting married to a guy you just met? That's crazy!" "Well, I am only doing it 'cos it's a Disney film and they just put us through a fall-in-love-in-2m30s-musical-montage. Cheap shot on your part; it's not like I really had a choice in the matter."

"My sister's cast a spell of eternal winter!" - what, like, at most, four hours ago? You saw it happen, then went after her (on a horse, mind you, whilst she was on foot). Don't you think 'eternal' is a little premature? At least give it 'til the morning...

"Here's some blankets and there's hot soup in the castle." "Well, duh, we do know what winter is. In case you hadn't noticed, everyone in the ruddy film is already dressed for a bit of a chill. And I've got a reindeer fur coat at home just like the guys you saw cutting ice at the start, you know..."

"And here's a new sledge for you - with a cup holder - because I'm rich, though technically since I'm from the royal household it's your taxes paying for it, and since we've now got a queen who can p*ss liquid nitrogen, your ice-cutting business is pretty much f****d anyway".

So, show it to kids who haven't seen much else. Don't make a big deal out of it. If you must get a sing-along, get Lion King or Jungle Book. Or at the very least the spoof farting song version...
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  • edited August 2014
    Mass hypnosis.
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  • I don't really like any Disney films. My mate told me Tangled was really good. He was wrong, it was ****!
  • edited August 2014
    Tangled was alright. Quite funny in places - there was some good slapstick, and the expressions the horse could pull were sublime. Can't remember a single line of a song from it, though I presume there must have been several. Maybe with PIXAR on the inside now, Disney studios have just completely given up on trying to make films with a broader appeal. There was nothing wrong with the art direction and CGI in either that or Frozen; they looked great, and the snow effects were superb - technically; it's just Frozen had no depth to the story, and mediocre songs that they never really got into, nor never seemed to actually be sure when they were supposed to have stopped singing either.
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  • edited August 2014
    I'm all for a good story, Disney or otherwise. Saw Tangled and Frozen over the same weekend with the kids: thought Tangled was pretty funny with plenty of good songs and comedy; fell asleep in Frozen.

    That said, my wife and daughter much preferred Frozen.

    Maybe it's a 'girl thing' ?
  • The last Disney film I really enjoyed was Monsters Inc. And maybe the first Toy Story. Everything since has bored me to various degrees. But then I'm not the target demographic. If the kids enjoy them, then call it a success.
  • edited August 2014
    Amfoot wrote: »
    Maybe it's a 'girl thing' ?
    Well, it is all about being on the blob, basically. :lol:
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  • edited August 2014
    The last Disney film I really enjoyed was Monsters Inc. And maybe the first Toy Story. Everything since has bored me to various degrees. But then I'm not the target demographic. I'd the kids enjoy them, then call it a success.
    That's because those are Pixar, not Walt Disney Animation Studios. Have you seen Wall-E?
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  • edited August 2014
    Disney =

    Tron, Tron Legacy, Black Hole, and DragonSlayer.

    And that's it. All else is ****e. ;)
  • edited August 2014
    Graz wrote: »
    Disney =

    Tron, Tron Legacy, Black Hole

    And that's it. All else is ****e. ;)

    Fixed that for you. ;-)
  • joefish wrote: »
    That's because those are Pixar, not Walt Disney Animation Studios. Have you seen Wall-E?

    Nope. It's never appealed to me either.
  • edited August 2014
    GreenCard wrote: »
    Fixed that for you. ;-)

    I didn't think Tron Legacy was all that great either, to be honest...

    As for Frozen, well, what would you expect? Disney animation these days is just a formulaic money making machine. Then again when Walt had pretty much done it all by the 1940s why bother trying anything new?
  • I thought he just drew pictures of mice.
  • edited August 2014
    Is Frozen the one with that song that all the kids are singing?
  • edited August 2014
    I thought he just drew pictures of mice.

    Naah, he got other people to do the drawing for him. He was far too busy planning world domination to do much himself.
  • edited August 2014
    Morkin wrote: »
    Is Frozen the one with that song that all the kids are singing?
    What are they singing? If it's 'Let it go' then yes. Though it's just as likely to be the 'Let one go' YouTube spoof of it. It's very inconsistent for a Disney song; starts with a powerful line then tails off to practically spoken, and it only has a few lines to it. It's not like there's a lot to memorise, like 'Bear Neccesities', 'Circle of Life' or 'Under the Sea'. It's not even as good as Satan's song from South Park (itself a Little Mermaid spoof). I imagine these kids are just singing the one line over and over again..?
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  • edited August 2014
    I haven't seen the film or really heard the song, apart from someone singing the single line "Let it go" at me a while ago. Incidentally they were a proper grown up and everything.
  • Matt_B wrote: »
    Naah, he got other people to do the drawing for him. He was far too busy planning world domination to do much himself.

    And killing lemmings.
  • edited August 2014
    Its absolutely brilliant I have seen it 4 times once at the cinema and 3 times on dvd my Anna cloak is on order from amazon as we speak.

    And its pronounced Arna even though its spelt Anna a lot of people who haven't seen the film get that wrong which can be quite annoying.

    Oh and the best song by far is the troll song especially the line about his acts of bestiality towards the reindeer.
  • edited August 2014
    1980-20.. wrote: »
    And its pronounced Arna even though its spelt Anna a lot of people who haven't seen the film get that wrong which can be quite annoying.
    More or less so than a shocking lack of punctuation? :lol:

    Now The LEGO Movie, Wall-E, The Lion King, The Little Mermaid, I could understand that level of interest. But Frozen? I just don't get it. Still, I hear it can get a bit chilly in THE NORTH. Maybe it's a regional thing... :D
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  • edited August 2014
    Matt_B wrote: »
    I didn't think Tron Legacy was all that great either, to be honest...

    I really liked it. :)
  • edited August 2014
    GreenCard wrote: »
    I really liked it. :)

    The best modern movie post 1980 me thinks.
    GreenCard wrote: »
    Fixed that for you. ;-)

    Oi, DragonSlayer is great... especially the REAL dragon. Amazing stuff.
    It's just the soundtrack that totally stinks. I keep meaning to try and replace it.
  • edited August 2014
    In answer to the question - no idea. My little girl went to a party at the weekend, but what we weren't told was it was a Frozen party, she was the only one who didn't know all the words to all the songs and stood there next to her mum feeling a bit left out.
    I don't really like any Disney films. My mate told me Tangled was really good. He was wrong, it was ****!

    [strike]OK so as Pixar films goes Tangled isn't the best, it seemed like the most conventionally "Disney" of their films so far to me - although I still enjoyed it enough to watch it a couple of times.[/strike] (edit: scratch that - I was thinking of Brave!)

    But seriously though... you've never seen Wall-E? What about Toy Story 3 or Up? Puss In Boots, or the brilliant Rango? Even the last Madagascar I thought was pretty good if a bit predictable.

    Seriously, if you find Toy Story 3 boring then you are Shania Twain and I claim my five pounds :-P
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  • edited August 2014
    joefish wrote: »
    More or less so than a shocking lack of punctuation? :lol:

    I have learning difficulties. Hope you feel bad now. Plus im an orphan raised by the state and i was born in August and I have got a addiction poor eyesight and hayfever.
  • edited August 2014
    leespoons wrote: »
    OK so as Pixar films goes Tangled isn't the best, it seemed like the most conventionally "Disney" of their films so far to me -

    Tangled isn't a Pixar film. It was made by Disney themselves. I still think it is good though. Better than Frozen (also a Disney production). I have seen them both and cannot understand the hysteria over Frozen.
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  • edited August 2014
    I went on the ?1 tickets to see it with the missus and our four year old. From the only trailers I'd seen, I was expecting a jolly little tale about a live little snowman. I was wrong. I didn't really like it, but they both did.

    Only Disney films I like are the Toy Story ones, but they're really the work of Pixar.
  • edited August 2014
    Bah! Frozen!

    We went to the cinema to see if for the kids. It's the closest I've ever come to falling asleep in the cinema. I came out thinking I'd just spent rather a large amount of money on a thoroughly average film.

    My wife and kids like it "enthusiastically". With repeat viewings, I'm still pretty much unmoved by the whole thing. The only thing I find moderately amusing is the fact that they seem to cheerfully overlook the fact that the male hero appears to be a thundering nut-job.

    The last film I remember watching where the male lead lends his voice to something that can't talk was "Psycho" - it didn't end too well for pretty much any of the characters in that film, so I live in hope (steady on! Ed)


    Toodle-pip!
    Gerard
  • edited August 2014
    Right, I'm going to add a serious question to this discussion on the film, Frozen. Brace yourselves..... here it comes:


    Do yoooooou wanna build a snooooowmaaaaaan?!



    Heh heh.

    My kids have watched it and love it. Admittedly, the music drove (and still does) me nuts. Not a day goes pass without someone in my household singing one of the songs.

    As for the film... not the best I've seen. Like everyone else said; been a hit with kids.

    However, on a contradictory note; I'm addicted to the Android Frozen game though (other half's fault lol).
  • edited August 2014
    Friend of mine wrote this on Facebook a while back:
    Dear Disney,

    I would be eternally grateful if you could speed up the production and release of the next princess movie set to penetrate our TV screens. I am continuously having to sit though Frozen (yes, a lovely film) several times a week and now know every word of the 'Let it go' anthem pitch perfect. I would quite like to get it out of my head occassionly and not have to be reminded by colleagues that I'm inadvertently whistling it whilst skipping down the corridor. Many thanks.

    Martin.
  • edited August 2014
    I've never seen the film and never heard the song. Long may it remain that way.
    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
  • edited August 2014
    joefish wrote: »
    ....

    So, show it to kids who haven't seen much else. Don't make a big deal out of it. If you must get a sing-along, get Lion King or Jungle Book. Or at the very least the spoof farting song version...


    Surely I am not the only one who wants to know more about this Spoof Farting Song ?
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