Daily Mail claim amateur sleuth has unmasked Jack The Ripper

edited September 2014 in Chit chat
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2746321/Jack-Ripper-unmasked-How-amateur-sleuth-used-DNA-breakthrough-identify-Britains-notorious-criminal-126-years-string-terrible-murders.html

Even if it is true the second stain could have been put on hours/days before the first seeming as she was a brass and probably entertained a dozen gentlemen a day.
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  • edited September 2014
    of course!!!

    its not like the guy doing the testing could possibly gain anything finacially. :-D
  • edited September 2014
    I've been massively into Jack The Ripper for years and own several books and documentarys on the subject. He's always seemed like one of the most likely suspects, but I personally think it was Dr Tumblety who escaped back to the USA and more Ripper style murders started there! Even Scotland Yard followed him over there, but managed to loose him.

    As has been mentioned though, going by her chosen profession, it's quite possible that Kosminsky had "relations" with her at some point. But, at least this guy is more believable than some of the suspects that have come up over the years, two of my favourites are JILL The Ripper and Lewis Carrol :-)
  • edited September 2014
    Sorry, you lost me at "Daily Mail"... :wink:
  • edited September 2014
    The Daily Fail, the gift that keeps on giving...
    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
  • edited September 2014
    Yeah, lets all read the pro-paedo Guardian instead...
  • zx1zx1
    edited September 2014
    The Guardian supports paedos?
    The trouble with tribbles is.......
  • edited September 2014
    Yeah, lets all read the pro-paedo Guardian instead...

    Please tell me that was a quote from Brass Eye or something.
  • edited September 2014
    Daily Mail blame Jack the Ripper on......

    IMMIGRANTS!

    LOL
  • edited September 2014
    thx1138 wrote: »
    Daily Mail blame Jack the Ripper on......

    IMMIGRANTS!

    Coming over here, stealing our serial killers' jobs...
    The comp.sys.sinclair crap games competition 2015
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  • edited September 2014
    Matt_B wrote: »
    Please tell me that was a quote from Brass Eye or something.
    sadly i think davy has that right wing EDL style mentality so....no, lol
    Professional Mel-the-Bell Simulator................"So realistic, I found myself reaching for the Kleenex King-Size!" - Richard Darling
  • edited September 2014
    Read the whole article... The 'expert' only does forensic analysis in his spare time, and used a technique he invented and only he knows about to extract the DNA .. Hmm

    Matt_B wrote: »
    Please tell me that was a quote from Brass Eye or something.

    "DBL means Dusty Blonde Lulu, and that's a male paedophile disguised as a lion" :-P
  • edited September 2014
    There was a documentary on ages ago that pointed the finger at the Tumblety. It was him, officer.
  • edited September 2014
    Maybe it is Kosminski's DNA, but that doesn't really prove anything, it just proves that Eddowes had contact with Kosminski at some point. Eddowes, being a prostitute, probably had several mens DNA on that shawl. He could have been some sicko who found the body and jerked off over it, or he gave her the shawl, or she stole it off him.

    Far from conclusive IMO.
  • edited September 2014
    Matt_B wrote: »
    Please tell me that was a quote from Brass Eye or something.

    No, its referring to a letter they willingly published 26 June 1997.
  • edited September 2014
    The problem with Kosminski is that he died in an asylum in 1917 and his medical records have survived. Of all the people who saw him they all agreed on one thing: he never displayed any violent behaviour. When he was put in the asylum it wasn't for any acts of violence, he was said to be utterly uninterested in looking after himself or his appearance or working. During his years at the asylum this didn't change.

    Apart from that, ok so you can test for degraded mitochondrial DNA, but can you say with any certainty that it was from November 1888 or 1921 or last week? As with any other scientific finding it has to be replicated by someone else before its universally accepted.
  • edited September 2014
    Interesting.

    We can't be sure form now but this looks quite serious attempt.
  • edited September 2014
    Now we've got his sperm can we create Jack the Ripper Junior?

    The only surprise is that the Mail didn't claim that Kosminski didn't play video games...
  • edited September 2014
    What a load of b@ll@cks!
  • edited September 2014
    rubberkeys wrote: »
    What a load of b@ll@cks!
    Can't believe I'm actually agreeing with rubberkeys (albeit in a more eloquent fashion).
    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
  • edited September 2014
    Now we've got his sperm can we create Jack the Ripper Junior?

    The only surprise is that the Mail didn't claim that Kosminski didn't play video games...

    Yeah, and then lock him up. :-D

    Scotland yard always gets its man.
  • edited September 2014
    No, its referring to a letter they willingly published 26 June 1997.

    Oh, you mean the one from Peter Tatchell where he said paedophilia was "impossible to condone"?

    Yes, you've got them bang to rights there. ;-)
  • edited September 2014
    No, its referring to a letter they willingly published 26 June 1997.

    Would you prefer that they willingly censored it? If you search for this letter -by Peter Tatchell - online you will find that it is kept alive 17 years on by the BNP, and they too have published it in full.

    You would have to be really stupid to make the assumption that either the Guardian or the BNP are pro-paedo just because they have chosen to publish the opinion of a public figure, the moreso in the Guardian's case as Tatchell's letter is an attack on a opposite opinion previously published in the same newspaper.
  • edited September 2014
    Indeed, you can read that Tatchell is no supporter of paedophilia straight from the horse's mouth here:

    http://www.petertatchell.net/lgbt_rights/age_of_consent/Under-age-sex-Statement-of-clarification-by-Peter-Tatchell.htm
  • edited September 2014
    Wow!

    I tell ya, back in my 20s I was obsessed with old Jack - being a Londoner and all.

    For those in the know - Aaron Kosminski was the only suspect ever identified back in the day by an eye-witness, and was also the lead suspect of two high ranking police officers and the lead detective on the street (Donald Swanson, not Michael Caine).

    Lol - thinking about it - I had a game included on the Sam Coupe 'Fred' diskzine under the mysterious title of M.J.D Productions. It stood for Montague John Druitt - another pathetic suspect unfairly treated throughout the century.

    Well well well. Aaron, you old fruit, you.

    My favourite suspect was always the Elephant Man who was in residence just round the corner at the time. He just looked shifty.


    Tobo
  • edited September 2014
    thx1138 wrote: »
    Daily Mail blame Jack the Ripper on......

    IMMIGRANTS!

    LOL

    The Fail true to form!! :)
  • edited September 2014
    Not sure what publishing letters or even writing articles about paedophiles has to do with whether they're good journalists or not :roll:

    Secondly to suggest that the Guardian worse than the Mail because it is "pro paedo" is hilarious. When did the Guardian last publish photos of a 15 year old in a short dress or swimsuit for its readers to letch at? :lol:
  • edited September 2014
    I have read the book by Patricia Cornwell (author of the Kay Scarpetta crime novels and a forensic expert). She names Walter Sickert as the Ripper suspect, and more than once in the book she notes that DNA evidence would not be reliable due to the poor protection of crime scenes at the time.
  • edited September 2014
    merman wrote: »
    I have read the book by Patricia Cornwell (author of the Kay Scarpetta crime novels and a forensic expert). She names Walter Sickert as the Ripper suspect, and more than once in the book she notes that DNA evidence would not be reliable due to the poor protection of crime scenes at the time.

    Is she the one who said she'd quit being an author if she was proved wrong?
  • edited September 2014
    Would you prefer that they willingly censored it? If you search for this letter -by Peter Tatchell - online you will find that it is kept alive 17 years on by the BNP, and they too have published it in full.

    You would have to be really stupid to make the assumption that either the Guardian or the BNP are pro-paedo just because they have chosen to publish the opinion of a public figure, the moreso in the Guardian's case as Tatchell's letter is an attack on a opposite opinion previously published in the same newspaper.

    They shouldn't have printed it or any of the other insane ramblings from a man who campaigns to make sex with children legal.
  • edited September 2014
    They shouldn't have printed it or any of the other insane ramblings from a man who campaigns to make sex with children legal.

    Why not?

    Are you scared that you might accidentally read something that makes you think?
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