Daily Mail claim amateur sleuth has unmasked Jack The Ripper

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  • edited September 2014
    guesser wrote: »
    Why not?

    By printing his stuff gives the impression that the newspaper endorses his viewpoint, the Guardian were more than happy to print the said article without any disclaimer.
  • edited September 2014
    guesser wrote: »
    Are you scared that you might accidentally read something that makes you think?

    I don't need to think, Richard Littlejohn does that for me LOL! :p
  • edited September 2014
    By printing his stuff gives the impression that the newspaper endorses his viewpoint, the Guardian were more than happy to print the said article without any disclaimer.

    Why would anyone assume that the newspaper endorses the views of any letter? Real newspapers print pro and anti letters on subjects all the time.
  • zx1zx1
    edited September 2014
    I don't need to think, Richard Littlejohn does that for me LOL! :p

    I used to like him, but seems to hate everyone in the whole solar system!:grin:
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  • edited September 2014
    guesser wrote: »
    Why would anyone assume that the newspaper endorses the views of any letter? Real newspapers print pro and anti letters on subjects all the time.

    The Guardian only prints stuff it approves of...

    Perhaps you can show me an example of them giving a platform to views it doesn't approve of?
  • edited September 2014
    zx1 wrote: »
    I used to like him, but seems to hate everyone in the whole solar system!:grin:

    It's because he's a troll, says things to turn the spotlight onto him. Often derailing subjects into hate filled tangents. Wouldn't be so bad, but people give him the attention he can't get elsewhere. A complete tool.
  • Was it Viz that used to have a spoof Littlejohn column with the tagline:

    Littlecock, Big Opinion!
    Cheeky Funster (53)
  • edited September 2014
    The Guardian only prints stuff it approves of...

    Perhaps you can show me an example of them giving a platform to views it doesn't approve of?

    I don't know what the views The Guardian does and doesn't approve of because I'm not The Guardian. I imagine it probably does ignore some letters because they are at odds with the editor's views. I'm not The Guardian letters editor either.

    The two aren't opposites though. I will agree with the second part that maybe it doesn't print letters it disagrees with, but it doesn't follow that therefore everything it prints it endorses as its own view.
  • edited September 2014
    hypostomus wrote: »
    . When he was put in the asylum it wasn't for any acts of violence, he was said to be utterly uninterested in looking after himself or his appearance or working. During his years at the asylum this didn't change.

    .



    Things were different back then. These days they'd just put him on Jeremy Kyle
  • edited September 2014
    The Guardian only prints stuff it approves of...

    Perhaps you can show me an example of them giving a platform to views it doesn't approve of?

    That's easy enough. Or do you think they approve the views of Norman Tebbit?

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/jun/15/norman-tebbit-interview
  • edited September 2014
    guesser wrote: »
    I don't know what the views The Guardian does and doesn't approve of because I'm not The Guardian. I imagine it probably does ignore some letters because they are at odds with the editor's views. I'm not The Guardian letters editor either.

    The two aren't opposites though. I will agree with the second part that maybe it doesn't print letters it disagrees with, but it doesn't follow that therefore everything it prints it endorses as its own view.

    That letter they printed could not be perceived in a good light, even the author knows it looked bad and with retrospective hindsight distanced himself from it.

    I cant see the Guardian printing a similar letter by a public figure calling for the reintroduction of capital punishment, withdrawal from the EU, cut to foreign aid budget etc. because the Guardian is fundamentally opposed to those things.

    But they're more than happy to print his highly questionable demands which indicates they are not fundamentally opposed to the idea.

    Anyone who gives a platform to such views has to be viewed with suspicion.
  • edited September 2014
    Matt_B wrote: »
    That's easy enough. Or do you think they approve the views of Norman Tebbit?

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/jun/15/norman-tebbit-interview

    There's a difference between writing an article about or interviewing and giving platform to.

    The 1997 letter was clearly giving platform to.
  • edited September 2014
    davey do you actually agree with anyone about anything? seem to go against the grain in every thread

    you even said something like this world cup just gone was the worst one ever, lol
  • edited September 2014
    def chris wrote: »
    you even said something like this world cup just gone was the worst one ever, lol

    It was wasn't it? :lol:
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  • edited September 2014
    It was wasn't it? :lol:


    can't remember tbh
  • edited September 2014
    It was wasn't it? :lol:

    no it didn't have those bloody trumpets
  • edited September 2014
    def chris wrote: »
    davey do you actually agree with anyone about anything? seem to go against the grain in every thread

    you even said something like this world cup just gone was the worst one ever, lol

    Unless you're German the World Cup was a load of crap, I've forgotten about it already, the only stand out moment was Suarez biting the Italian guy!
  • edited September 2014
    Unless you're German the World Cup was a load of crap, I've forgotten about it already, the only stand out moment was Suarez biting the Italian guy!

    and Brazil getting slaughtered
  • edited September 2014
    thx1138 wrote: »
    and Brazil getting slaughtered

    Sorry, forgot about that!

    Kinda switched off after Englands 2nd game!
  • edited September 2014
    That letter they printed could not be perceived in a good light, even the author knows it looked bad and with retrospective hindsight distanced himself from it.
    Well the author claims it was edited misleadingly, who knows. The only people who know the truth for sure will presumably be the author and the editors.

    I see a letter defending a book about an apparently historical and scientific analysis about the subject of adult-child sex against calls for censorship, and concluding that "society should acknowledge that not all sex is unwanted, abusive or harmful." which apparently is the book's conclusion.
    The Guardian then published letters from other people criticising him for this position.
    I don't see any fault in the guardian publishing any of those letters, or any apparent bias. I suppose I would have to have read The Guardian at the time to get an idea of whether there was any or not on this issue.
    I still hardly see the relevance or why you brought it up though.
    they're more than happy to print his highly questionable demands which indicates they are not fundamentally opposed to the idea.
    Well, maybe they just weren't fundamentally opposed to his letter in the way you are. The subject of ages of consent and relative morality etc is a complex one, so acknowledging that the the past and other countries have different moral codes to present day Britain is something more people should actually think about, which Tatchell claims, now at least, was what he really meant and that his letter was just intended to defend free speech etc. *shrug*
    Anyone who gives a platform to such views has to be viewed with suspicion.
    Well the Daily Mail has since re-published his views, with the comment that it's a free country and that societal norms change so what was shocking in 1997 might not be in the future. That presumably makes them a terribly suspicious publication :)
  • edited September 2014
    I cant see the Guardian printing a similar letter by a public figure calling for the reintroduction of capital punishment

    A quick Google, not quite the guardian, but close enough ;)

    The Observer letters. Sunday 17 August 2003
    David Aaronovitch does not wish to live in a society which enforces capital punishment (Comment, last week). By the same token, I and around 70 per cent of the population do not wish to live in a society where the average sentence for taking another's life is just 12 and a half years. I also do not want to live in a society which boasts the highest level of violent crime in Europe, and where millions of elderly people are too frightened to walk the streets. I also do not want to live in a society which has the highest percentage of children born out of wedlock in Europe, knowing full well the cost to society in terms of crime and social disintegration of the one-parent family. A dose of moderate social conservatism is a price worth paying to reduce these problems.
    The 1950s may have been no 'Eden' - but our society was undoubtedly more cohesive. From a left-wing viewpoint, I find the 1950s a better model than the dumbed-down, capitalist Britain of 2003.
    Neil Clark
    Botley, Oxford
  • edited September 2014
    guesser wrote: »
    A quick Google, not quite the guardian, but close enough ;)

    The Observer letters. Sunday 17 August 2003

    Don't know why they let that one slip under the radar, must be the bit at the end where he stated he was a lefty and hated capitalism :lol:
  • edited September 2014
    Don't know why they let that one slip under the radar

    Probably because he writes for their newspaper :lol:
  • edited September 2014
    guesser wrote: »
    Probably because he writes for their newspaper :lol:

    Ah well that explains it!
  • edited September 2014
    Ah well that explains it!

    Well yes, but he also writes for the Daily Mail :p
  • edited September 2014
    guesser wrote: »
    Well yes, but he also writes for the Daily Mail :p

    A left-winger capital punishment supporter who writes for the Daily Mail...

    DOES NOT COMPUTE!
  • edited September 2014
    *grabs a pin and looks for the hard reset switch*
  • edited September 2014
    hypostomus wrote: »
    , he was said to be utterly uninterested in looking after himself or his appearance or working

    That's a Daily Mail article right there.:p
  • edited September 2014
    I also do not want to live in a society which has the highest percentage of children born out of wedlock in Europe, knowing full well the cost to society in terms of crime and social disintegration of the one-parent family.

    Off you trot then, Neil!

    Lee
    (brought up by a single mum, and father of two kids born out of wedlock. IT'S ALL MY FAULT!!!!!!1)
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  • leespoons wrote: »
    brought up by a single mum, and father

    Had to read that a few times!

    leespoons wrote: »
    IT'S ALL MY FAULT!!!!!!

    You killed the prostitutes?
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