with you there. Michael Stipe's a bit like the American Morrissey for me, sings the same 3 notes in every song. Every REM song sounds the same to me, more or less
Not sure if its been mentioned but Take my breath away from the Top Gun movie, used to really rob me of the will to live. :lol:
For some reason, I always thought the falling in love with his instructor aspect really spoilt the film, when they could have had instead 15 minutes more great aerial footage, and dog-fights.
Having just watched a clip Highway to the Dangerzone is quite annoying now too.
The sound that Blur were going for was this very early Pavement rhytm guitar sound, songs like Box Elder, and the less abrasive parts of Slanted and Crooked. (the live version of Box Elder from Brixton (which I was lucky enough to be at) is the definitive version, perfect 50s rock and roll mashed up with laid back california)
I saw the Fall for the first time since the 80s at the End Of The Road Festival a couple of years ago. Amazing. The waves of rhythm, with their huge turning circles, amongst the dark fairy lit woodland was hypnotic.
All went a bit wrong (or a bit formulaic and repetitive) after Green.
I agree that Stipe's vocal range was somewhat restricted; but there are very very few rock vocalists that have truly expansive, rangey and versatile voices.
They are in the category of bands that greatly inspired other bands and musicians more than they had an impact on the charts. A band's band so to speak.
fair enough, that pavement track is definitely 'influenced' by New Face In Hell.
Grotesque is my favourite Fall album by a mile (that and the Slates EP) but weirdly although I love Pavement I don't like Slanted & Enchanted, in fact I don't think I've ever made it through one listen of that album, hence not remembering that tune... Everything from Crooked Rain onwards I rate highly, and none of it reminds me of The Fall!
They are in the category of bands that greatly inspired other bands and musicians more than they had an impact on the charts. A band's band so to speak.
Also John Peel's favourite band. I only really know them for their cover of R. Dean Taylor's There's A Ghost In My House (plus Mark E. Smith's collaborations with D.O.S.E. and the Inspirals). They're yet another band I keep meaning to investigate, although with 30 albums to choose from I wouldn't really know where to start.
fair enough, that pavement track is definitely 'influenced' by New Face In Hell.
Grotesque is my favourite Fall album by a mile (that and the Slates EP) but weirdly although I love Pavement I don't like Slanted & Enchanted, in fact I don't think I've ever made it through one listen of that album, hence not remembering that tune... Everything from Crooked Rain onwards I rate highly, and none of it reminds me of The Fall!
you would probably not like Westing then; which is very fallish/
Interestingly, Slanted is considered by most critics to be their best record. I think listening back to it after their later albums you can hear that their core sound is there: there is a great variation in song styles which pop up continuily through their later records.
you would probably not like Westing then; which is very fallish/
Interestingly, Slanted is considered by most critics to be their best record. I think listening back to it after their later albums you can hear that their core sound is there: there is a great variation in song styles which pop up continuily through their later records.
yeah I know most people think Slanted is their best one. just sounds too scrappy to me, but not in a good way... and I haven't checked that Westing By Musket etc album either, probably for the same reason
It's only a matter of time before the Flaming Lips get mentioned....you bunch of bloody hipsters! :p
I was into Flaming Lips before they got massive (honest), bought their Transmissions From A Sattelite Heart album in 93 when it came out (they were already about 5 albums in by that point) then went off them when their next album came out. that was still a few years before they suddenly got really big. their early 90s stuff is good IMO, don't even know what they sound like now...
yeah I know most people think Slanted is their best one. just sounds too scrappy to me, but not in a good way
Only some of it is "scrappy"; its a very protean record: california surf music; british new-wave; radio friendly pop; and songs that are very similar in style to their later records (Here could sit on Brighten or Twilight quite easily).
ok, maybe I've not given it a fair chance. as it's on youtube in full I will bookmark for later
I'm sure you will be pleasantly suprised. It has aged extremely well.
If you are a Pavement fan, might I suggest the BBC live in Concert at the Shepherds Bush Empire. I've seen Pavement scores of times, and they could be very hit and miss - full of life one day, subdued the next.
I was at the show at Shepherd's Bush and it was excellent; apart from Reading Festival, the best I have heard them. FLACs are available all over the net (Dimeadozen for example); but there are some quick MP3s here
At 4 minutes in he extends his piss-take of the Smashing Pumpkins to Kula Shaker (remember them? awful) by comparing their "tunes" to the bunged up man in the Tunes-cough-sweet advert (remember him?). Malkmus is an anglophile and often observes quite obscure British Culture
(John Bennett from High Llamas plays here, introduced "from Wanstead")
At 4 minutes in he extends his piss-take of the Smashing Pumpkins to Kula Shaker (remember them? awful) by comparing their "tunes" to the bunged up man in the Tunes-cough-sweet advert (remember him?). Malkmus is an anglophile and often observes quite obscure British Culture
(John Bennett from High Llamas plays here, introduced "from Wanstead")
cheers, sounds good will check the rest later. I could never work out if that smashing pumpkins line was supposed to be a dig at them? I thought they were good tbh :smile:
I'm a big fan of High Llamas too, got to see one of their rare live shows in bristol a few years ago. there was only 4 of them iirc, no string section but a great show
Hate that des'ree song...not exactly a classic though, but very overplayed. But yes me and my mates used to say the words to that park bit in total monotone whenever the song was on. It did also spawn a rather one sided debate about her creative genius or lack thereof :D
One song I really really hate that still gets played on the radio in England and here in the US....even more so in the US is Babylon by David Gray. It just annoys the piss out of me, infact every one of his songs does.
Always mentioning chemicals rushing through his bloodstream, is he a speed addict or a habitual ecstasy taker or something.
Woah, woah, WOAH! I would very much like to point out that I was in no way whatsoever implying that anything by Des'ree is anywhere near classic! :lol:
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Suede still sound good though.
Used to listen to Blur but didnt really enjoy it.
Havent listened to Oasis since they were popular.
Never liked Bob Marley but listened to a UB40 track recently and really liked it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNWiFPdBy9w
:embarrassed:
The kind of old songs they play in nightclubs..
brown eyed girl by Van Morrison etc.
I have the same reaction but with REM.
For some reason, I always thought the falling in love with his instructor aspect really spoilt the film, when they could have had instead 15 minutes more great aerial footage, and dog-fights.
Having just watched a clip Highway to the Dangerzone is quite annoying now too.
Pavement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx48npNkabM
The Fall:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOStqtwmD6s
The sound that Blur were going for was this very early Pavement rhytm guitar sound, songs like Box Elder, and the less abrasive parts of Slanted and Crooked. (the live version of Box Elder from Brixton (which I was lucky enough to be at) is the definitive version, perfect 50s rock and roll mashed up with laid back california)
Blur:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbNOOXohkCg
Pavment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oqXVx3sBOk
I saw the Fall for the first time since the 80s at the End Of The Road Festival a couple of years ago. Amazing. The waves of rhythm, with their huge turning circles, amongst the dark fairy lit woodland was hypnotic.
Mumur was decent.
All went a bit wrong (or a bit formulaic and repetitive) after Green.
I agree that Stipe's vocal range was somewhat restricted; but there are very very few rock vocalists that have truly expansive, rangey and versatile voices.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wygQmJ59E4Q
not bad! but too repetitive for me.
Yeah all that top gun music is terrible except the anthem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCTJmXrgsFg
They are in the category of bands that greatly inspired other bands and musicians more than they had an impact on the charts. A band's band so to speak.
fair enough, that pavement track is definitely 'influenced' by New Face In Hell.
Grotesque is my favourite Fall album by a mile (that and the Slates EP) but weirdly although I love Pavement I don't like Slanted & Enchanted, in fact I don't think I've ever made it through one listen of that album, hence not remembering that tune... Everything from Crooked Rain onwards I rate highly, and none of it reminds me of The Fall!
Also John Peel's favourite band. I only really know them for their cover of R. Dean Taylor's There's A Ghost In My House (plus Mark E. Smith's collaborations with D.O.S.E. and the Inspirals). They're yet another band I keep meaning to investigate, although with 30 albums to choose from I wouldn't really know where to start.
not heard all their albums but I'd say if you want a more accessable tuneful one go for Middle Class Revolt, or Infotainment Scan
or if you want the more weird/tuneless stuff try Hex Enduction Hour
(alternately stick your head in a bucket and mumble to yourself in a manc accent while playing some old rockabilly tracks on a broken stereo :))
Interestingly, Slanted is considered by most critics to be their best record. I think listening back to it after their later albums you can hear that their core sound is there: there is a great variation in song styles which pop up continuily through their later records.
I was into Flaming Lips before they got massive (honest), bought their Transmissions From A Sattelite Heart album in 93 when it came out (they were already about 5 albums in by that point) then went off them when their next album came out. that was still a few years before they suddenly got really big. their early 90s stuff is good IMO, don't even know what they sound like now...
Only some of it is "scrappy"; its a very protean record: california surf music; british new-wave; radio friendly pop; and songs that are very similar in style to their later records (Here could sit on Brighten or Twilight quite easily).
I'm sure you will be pleasantly suprised. It has aged extremely well.
If you are a Pavement fan, might I suggest the BBC live in Concert at the Shepherds Bush Empire. I've seen Pavement scores of times, and they could be very hit and miss - full of life one day, subdued the next.
I was at the show at Shepherd's Bush and it was excellent; apart from Reading Festival, the best I have heard them. FLACs are available all over the net (Dimeadozen for example); but there are some quick MP3s here
http://captainsdead.com/pavement-live-shepherds-bush-1997.html
check out the version of Range Life:
http://captainsdead.com/1013/pmnt/15%20Range%20Life.mp3
:o:D
Very Gram Parsonsish
At 4 minutes in he extends his piss-take of the Smashing Pumpkins to Kula Shaker (remember them? awful) by comparing their "tunes" to the bunged up man in the Tunes-cough-sweet advert (remember him?). Malkmus is an anglophile and often observes quite obscure British Culture
(John Bennett from High Llamas plays here, introduced "from Wanstead")
Sadly the BBC cut the expletives!
We're heading for Venus and still we stand tall
Cause maybe they've seen us and welcome us all
This is perhaps the worst set of lyrics ever. I bet they thought it was dead clever too, the Swedish bungholes.
cheers, sounds good will check the rest later. I could never work out if that smashing pumpkins line was supposed to be a dig at them? I thought they were good tbh :smile:
I'm a big fan of High Llamas too, got to see one of their rare live shows in bristol a few years ago. there was only 4 of them iirc, no string section but a great show
I've said this here before, but Des'ree beats that, hands down...
"I don't want to see a ghost,
It's the sight that I fear most,
I'd rather have a piece of toast,
And watch the evening news."
"I'm as serious as cancer when I say rhythm is a dancer"
is there a worse lyric than this?
"I'm afraid of the dark
Especially when I'm in a park
And there's no one else around
Ooh, I get the shivers"
Des'ree. Poet. Wordsmith. Genius.
One song I really really hate that still gets played on the radio in England and here in the US....even more so in the US is Babylon by David Gray. It just annoys the piss out of me, infact every one of his songs does.
Always mentioning chemicals rushing through his bloodstream, is he a speed addict or a habitual ecstasy taker or something.
"babble on! babble on! BAAAAAABBBLE ON!!!!"
C**T!
I think so!
Out on tour with the Smashing Pumpkins
They're nothing kids, they have no function
I don't understand what they mean and I couldn't give a f**k
Billy Corgan was quite upset about it I read.
Pavement often followed Range Life with a (very good) cover of Pumpkins 1979. Ironic?
Talking of lyrics, Pavement's stereo has the awesome:
SM, "What about the voice of Geddy Lee? How did it get so high? I wonder if he speaks like an ordinary guy?
BN "I know him and he does!"
SM "well you're my fact checking cuz'"
BN "Aww"
yeah the Rush line is funny.
I also like this one from Type Slowly
"One of us is a cigar stand, and one of us is a lovely blue incandescent guillotine"
answers on a postcard...