Crimble Hols
I've been told today i'm working xmas and boxing day too, if that wasn't bad enough i have to make my own way in, i don't drive so it will have to be a taxi, they expect me to pay around ?50 each way, i said there's no way i'm paying that, also there's no xmas bonus and people who drive in have to pay for their own fuel. I attended a meeting yesterday where the managers were shouting about 'making here a better place to work.' What a load of ****e!
Is this legal? I could name the company as it's a well know mobile phone company. We've also been kicked in the teeth recently regarding a wages issue, new starts are being paid ?2K more than people who started years ago and are doing the exact same job.
I am absolutely raging!:sad:
Is this legal? I could name the company as it's a well know mobile phone company. We've also been kicked in the teeth recently regarding a wages issue, new starts are being paid ?2K more than people who started years ago and are doing the exact same job.
I am absolutely raging!:sad:
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Are they paying overtime? I worked for NCR at Holytown and event they weren't that tight. I'd expect double time and a day in lieu at least. But if there is no public transport it probably isn't even worth going in. Take the days off and fek'em.
Double overtime should be a minimum IMO (it should be treble), as is time off in lieu. Travelling is a bitch for yourself, do you have any family close by who would be willing to give you a lift?
Never received an Xmas bonus in my entire working career so you ain't getting any sympathy there ;-)
I do understand that as i work on a Faults Desk for Corporate Customers we need to be here 24/7 but call volumes that day will be very low (if any).
And now i hear we're taking Manchester's calls as they will be closed on xmas and boxing day.
Feel terrible, i really want to walk out now.
^ This. When I worked for Sainsbury's years ago I had to do 4am starts sometimes to cover one of the managers. I said I'd only do it if they gave me my taxi fare in advance - if they thought I was going to risk life and limb walking across Bedford town centre at 3am for ?5.50 an hour they could jog on!
Find out who in your company is responsible for expenses. You might find you have to pay for the taxis upfront and then put in a claim, but if they can't even do that then it's time to practice your best "at death's door" voice and phone in sick for 2 days!
Don't knee-jerk and walk out, it'll be 10 times worse knowing you've not got a job in the new year. Is it possible for you and the other staff to club together and hire a minibus for the two days - it would possibly be much cheaper? If someone could be a designated driver everyone else could bung that person a fiver/tenner each so they could treat themselves after, whilst the rest of you try and sneak a few drinks in during the day :-)
Sorry to hear that, but not surprised. At least you're not on a zero hour contract. Workers' rights in this country are a joke now, and apparently if you're unemployed then dealing with the DHSS has become almost torture. If you're offered a job within ninety minutes travelling time of your home, then you HAVE to take the job, or you lose your dole. Doesn't matter if the job is something that you hate, you still MUST take the job.
I complain all the time about my situation (agency based I.T. Support, with always changing locations, same companies, covering for people, etc, and no chance of a permanent job as they prefer to employ people without having to pay holiday, sick pay, whatever. And when I can get a permanent job it's either somewhere I hate or the money isn't as good as temping (not that the money is ever good). But I am luckier than a lot of people, as at least I have a job, and it's not something that I actually detest, though there are lots of other jobs I'd rather do, especially if they were nearer home (I hate commuting) and permanent. But it's still nothing like the situation we'd have if the government actually cared about workers, instead of just seeing us a peasants who are to be worked to death.
It's making me mad just typing this, and I haven't even mentioned how by the time I retire the national pension will probably be negligible (and I don't have the money to arrange a private pension, especially not because of the ****ing bus and train costs), how so many of the companies I work for are filled with almost stereotypically bad bosses, who are supposed to oversee the I.T. staff and associated processes as part of their jobs but are not only utterly clueless about it, but make so little secret of their looking down at those of us who do.
Basically, there are SO MANY REASONS why everyone wants to leave Britain for good, and the way workers are treated is high on the list.
Edit: ZX1, do you have kids? If so, then doesn't that give you any power re: choosing to work/not work at Christmas? Probably not, considering how little the powers that be value the tax payers' rights and wishes. Look at how the banks have just been fined for non-orthodox workings, but no one has been prosecuted (or even named?) for it. And the fine money will be paid by the customers, not the criminals (sorry, the hard working, altruistic, epitomies of decency), and of course they will still get their bonuses on top of their huge salaries.
That's England for you, a million laws for the poor, non for the rich.
That's me done in this thread, it's just making me mad.
Nope, i don't have kids but a woman who is working is having her brother over from Oz with his family and her mother has terminal cancer so this will be the last time they will all be together, she has to work, she is also not a happy camper.
Not really sure what to do, it's not really the working the shift that's the problem, it's paying my own taxi, i really can't afford it.
I really don't know what to do:sad:
Put out a notice at work saying that you'll give ?X for a lift share over Christmas.
If your job depends on you being there or being replaced (usually, if you book a holiday then someone else has to do overtime to cover - a regular occurrence with shift workers), then you can request a holiday and hope someone covers for the OT.
There's a lot we don't know without knowing your contract. It sucks, but that's life. I spent 16yrs either working xmas eve nights, xmas day, new years eve night, new years day, etc and in most cases most of them. I chose that career and signed those contracts.
This is the first Christmas day ever i won't be spending with my family.
I'll see what happens at work now that every single person has complained, we don't need everyone in on xmas day, there won't be enough work to go round for a start was 95% of businesses we look after will be closed.
The company i work for doesn't recognise unions, no one is a member.
Wont they have grounds to fire him if they suspect it's fake?
That's what i'm thinking, they'll know i'm lying because i told them i wasn't paying out of my own pocket for a taxi, so i would probably at very the least be on a final warning (even though i haven't had one yet!)
Had a meeting today and there's a glimmer of hope that some of us MIGHT get xmas day off but we won't know until the week before Christmas, this is probably just a ploy to make us feel better.
Also found out the company cancelled the xmas party due to 'technical difficulties' whatever that means, i don't care because i wasn't going!
They are all just pricks.
Had another meeting with my manager today who has said that we still have to pay for our taxi but if we get a receipt we can claim it back as expenses which takes 5 working days, we still need to book it ourselves though.
I'm also working boxing day but i can get a train in as it's a Sunday service.
I think you manager will be met by three spirits on xmas eve. So don't be suprised if he lets you have the day off and brings you a big xmas pizza.
No zx1 needs to post a Christmas pizza in the saucer thread ;)
The others were close enough to being green and red anyway :p
Nope, i can't be bothered making another pizza, perhaps in the new year i'll try again.
New years pizza is easy, all you need is a copious amount of alchohol and the contents of your stomach :lol:
First, it was going to be business as usual except for the statutory holidays (Xmas Day, Boxing Day & New Year's Day), which was fine, then our boss said that we'd be doing next to nothing, so we didn't have to come in and he'd pay us out for the days anyway (which was great) and on the strength of that, one lad booked his holidays to visit his wife's family in Texas.
Then our boss's boss nixed that and said he wasn't letting him pay us if we weren't coming in, so we were back to working all the days but the stats, so this lad had to change his flight dates to come back on the 21st for work on Monday while his family stayed down there.
So that was the plan until two days ago, when the bean-counters in the accounts department figured out that most of our client sites would be shut, and decided that it would be more cost effective and wouldn't upset the clients if they closed down the depot for two weeks rather than paid everyone to work the holidays.
It pissed a lot of people on our team off, as they were counting on the money. We're contractors, so we don't get paid out if we don't work. I'm OK because my wife is working too, so we can get by for a couple of weeks, and they're legally obliged to pay us for the statutory holidays as we're returning after Xmas, so it's only a week and two days instead of two full weeks of pay we're missing, but it's still a s#!tty thing to drop on you with a couple of days' notice.
Don't know if the lad who changed his plans switched his flight back, but he was saying that it cost him to switch every time, so I imagine he's quite unhappy with the whole experience.
LOL been there seen the carnage