PSN and Xbox Live! outage..

edited December 2014 in Chit chat
This sucks.. Stupid act of tw@ishness..

http://techcrunch.com/2014/12/25/merry-xmas-you-filthy-animals/

Makes Sony & MS look silly that they couldn't stop it, even after these morons boasting about it in advance.

As I write, it's still down here.

At least back in the Speccy days, we didn't have hackers to deal with..
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  • edited December 2014
    It would have been an easy day to take it Down, with all,the increased traffic , due to new machines attempting to update.

    My lad had a new ps4 yesterday.
    At 9:00 am gmt Christmas Day we got on, got the system updated, updated battlefield 4, which took about an hour, after lunch (when those across the pond were just waking up) access to online gaming was intermittent to non existent.

    Not tried today yet.
  • edited December 2014
    Yes you would have thought Sony would be better prepared for this,thankfully I got a kindle fire for Xmas so ps3 not been on despite having some new games of Santa lol,I try later 😁
  • edited December 2014
    Xbox Live worked fine first thing yesterday asks I was able to play Forza 5 and download the updates etc no problem. I didn't try again later in the day, but I understand it was down for most of the day, so I guess I was lucky!

    I tried putting my PS4 on as soon as I finished with Forza, but it wouldn't connect to PSN and it said it was "down for maintenance". I only put it onto check if anything was on sale, so I wasn't fussed, but wasn't surprised to see it down either.

    My PS4 did automatically download an update for Far Cry 4 though as it normally does when you first turn it on, so at first I thought it was a firmware update that needed downloading. I feel for everyone who got a new console for Christmas, although the basics will have worked I think?
  • edited December 2014
    Did notice it myself on the Xbox, apparently they weren't hit as hard. Maybe the UK didnt get it so bad or something.
  • edited December 2014
    Grunaki wrote: »
    Makes Sony & MS look silly that they couldn't stop it, even after these morons boasting about it in advance.

    From my admittedly entirely third hand, and very limited knowledge of hacking, this type of hacking is almost impossible to defend against, since it's basically the equivalent of people (well, morons) tying up your home telephone by them constantly phoning you up from lots of different phones for hours on end. If I've understood what I've read (always a first time!) then all these cretins are doing is using a lot of PCs to constantly access XBox Live! and PSN, to cause congestion with those two online services. Apparently it takes very little skill, just some pre-made scripts that you run on networked PCs.


    At least back in the Speccy days, we didn't have hackers to deal with..

    Well, we did, sort of, but back then hacking meant getting infinite lives or unlimited bullets in a game. Back then hackers were good people, sending their hacks into Crash and Your Sinclair so we could use them if we liked.


    I've pretty much given up wondering how (an admittedly very small proportion of) people can be so selfish/pathetic/moronic. I mean, even if you agree that the group in question have good motives (and if they have then I've yet to hear it) then by doing this they are hurting honest gamers (adults and especially kids who got the consoles on Christmas day) much more than they are hurting Microsoft or Sony.
  • edited December 2014
    PSN is back up here....I think it literally did take until 6am today to fix it as well.

    I could also log in yesterday morning, then things went strange.
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  • edited December 2014
    If I had paid over the odds for a machine where the games cost loads of money, and the whole lot is tied into a propriety network, which requires ongoing payments to use, then I'd be directing my anger at the people taking my money for a service they can't protect.
    Microsoft and Sony seem happy enough to take money from trusting people to provide the service, protecting against hackers and not leaking payment details should be the bare minimum expected.
    There is no point in getting angry at the cockroaches in your hotel room, you would complain to the hotel management.
  • edited December 2014
    p13z wrote: »
    If I had paid over the odds for a machine where the games cost loads of money, and the whole lot is tied into a propriety network, which requires ongoing payments to use, then I'd be directing my anger at the people taking my money for a service they can't protect.
    Microsoft and Sony seem happy enough to take money from trusting people to provide the service, protecting against hackers and not leaking payment details should be the bare minimum expected.
    There is no point in getting angry at the cockroaches in your hotel room, you would complain to the hotel management.

    But if someone released the cockroaches into the hotel for a laugh. You'd still get mad at the hotel for letting it happen?
  • edited December 2014
    mile wrote: »
    But if someone released the cockroaches into the hotel for a laugh. You'd still get mad at the hotel for letting it happen?

    This is why hotels do stuff like fit locks on doors as part of providing a service. And yes, I should think guests in such a situation would be expecting some kind of apology or compensation.
  • edited December 2014
    p13z wrote: »
    This is why hotels do stuff like fit locks on doors as part of providing a service. And yes, I should think guests in such a situation would be expecting some kind of apology or compensation.

    I think pretty much every other major downtime on both PSN and Xbox Live has been accompanied by some form of compensation, I doubt this will be any different in that regard. Doesn't mean the ire shouldn't be directed at the stupid kids doing this kind of childish DDoS stuff.
  • edited December 2014
    AndyC wrote: »
    Doesn't mean the ire shouldn't be directed at the stupid kids doing this kind of childish DDoS stuff.
    We should get angry at kids for doing childish stuff, now you put it like that, I'm not sure what I was thinking. Good point.
  • edited December 2014
    What point were the hackers trying to make, anyway? I mean, other than "Look at us, we're so smart", obviously. All they've done is massively ****ed off a lot of gamers, and proved that even big companies are not immune to (apparently fairly easy to write) hacks that attack public networks.
  • edited December 2014
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  • edited December 2014
    Those are 2 of the 20 people playing Wii-U yesterday who didn't lose their connection, and they're not even playing Smash Brothers, or Mariokart some Nintendians they are! :lol:
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  • edited December 2014
    Grunaki wrote: »

    Christ, I just sat and read through all the comments on that link, and for every sensible and reasoned comment, there were 20 morons typing ****, and arguing about whether North Korea should be nuked. I need a few drinks to get my IQ level back up.

    Personally i'd be more worried about that bunch of console owners than a select few dumbass wannabe hackers.

    Hey ho, back to Steam. :-)
  • edited December 2014
    **** and **** ****** ****** **** PC Gamers!
























    ;)

    :p
    Every night is curry night!
  • edited December 2014
    **** and **** ****** ****** **** PC Gamers!
























    ;)

    :p

    I didn't say we were the gaming Master Race, did I ;)

    Still, Steam may well be hacked next. Or Origin.

    Actually, please hack Origin.
  • edited December 2014
    **** and **** ****** ****** **** PC Gamers!

    Presumably they're all still updating drivers and fiddling with settings....
  • edited December 2014
    SimonLCFC wrote: »
    I didn't say we were the gaming Master Race, did I ;)

    Still, Steam may well be hacked next. Or Origin.

    Actually, please hack Origin.

    :lol:

    I didn't actually type any swearwords either, just lots of asterisks :lol:
    AndyC wrote: »
    Presumably they're all still updating drivers and fiddling with settings....

    Probably ;)
    Every night is curry night!
  • edited December 2014
    AndyC wrote: »
    Presumably they're all still updating drivers and fiddling with settings....
    Probably ;)

    Not if we're playing something done by Squeenix we're not lol ;)
  • edited December 2014
    So. Ps4. PSN. Still not up.
    But PS3 PSN Working fine.

    Are they differerent networks?
  • edited December 2014
    murtceps wrote: »
    So. Ps4. PSN. Still not up.
    But PS3 PSN Working fine.

    Are they differerent networks?

    I think they are as the PS3 was notoriously sluggish for most users, but they fixed it for PS4. My PS3 can take 20 minutes to download a few hundred meg, but my PS4 will download gigs in the same time over the same connection.

    It's annoying that it's still down though. Xbox Live is up and running again though :-)
  • edited December 2014
    murtceps wrote: »
    So. Ps4. PSN. Still not up.
    But PS3 PSN Working fine.

    Are they differerent networks?

    Pretty sure they are.
    Messages on ps3 network=fast as a stoat
    Messages on Ps4 network=slow as a sloth.

    ps3-no voice messages
    ps4- voice messages

    ps3 cant see ps4 users online
    ps4 can see ps3 users online
  • edited December 2014
    Imagine the even bigger PR nightmare if Microsoft had gone along with their original plan for always online DRM even for single player.
  • edited December 2014
    PS4 network is back up (in UK) and a few other countries too judging by what I have read.
  • edited December 2014
    Finally got back,on line in the ps4.

    By connecting via lan cable. (May not have done anything)
    And
    Changing the mtu setting (whatever that is)
  • edited December 2014
    I just put my PS4 on and I logged in no problem. Seems nice and fast too :-)
  • edited December 2014
    murtceps wrote: »
    Finally got back,on line in the ps4.

    By connecting via lan cable. (May not have done anything)
    And
    Changing the mtu setting (whatever that is)

    I had to do the same, changed the MTU to 1473 and reset my PS4, connected first time and now downloading The last of us...finally :) never played it but heard really good things about it, cant wait if im honest.
  • edited December 2014
    apparently it was 3 hacking groups in competition, it showed one of em on sky news during an interview, he wasnt sorry and called everybody wanting to play games at christmas as idiots lol
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  • Just found this thread in my discussions list.. Hope this doesn't happen again this year!
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