Russian-speaking topic - Multiface 3

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  • edited January 2015
    Maybe posting in English and Russian is the way to go? If you need help it's best to write in English so that non Russian speakers can read it and try to answer and help you with your problem. I gussied most people on this forum speak English so you will have a wider audience. :)
  • edited January 2015
    I think that we should go further and ask Amstrad to produce ZX Spectrum with translated BASIC tokens.
  • edited January 2015
    Eltaron wrote: »
    I think that we should go further and ask Amstrad to produce ZX Spectrum with translated BASIC tokens.
    Already done but for arabic language only )
  • edited January 2015
    It is kinda rude.

    The WoS forums are no different than an English speaking dinner party, and then a bunch of people turn up and speak in whatever language and that immediately alienates the majority of the dinner party, it's not cricket.

    Now, respect comes from at least trying, when I go to France I do try and speak in French and even though the waiter will be cocky and answer back in English, he at least respects me, and unlike the American "I don't give a ****" tourists next to me who will only speak in American, I know "my" food won't be spat in.

    These forums are full of some of the most friendly people ever, and speaking in broken English would be tolerated completely, speaking in any language other than English, well that just show's no respect and hint of being just a tad lazy.

    And given so so many of the WoSers who write on this forum where English is not their first language, it really does show it can work and there should be no excuse.

    So what was the Spectrum question again?
  • edited January 2015
    Dust ken ah costna gera grip on owt thayt ast on abiyt
  • edited January 2015
    I do not see how this is supposed to work. With just one thread, all Russian language questions are supposed to end up in the same pile? So if I want to read things related to Development, I end up reading about hardware? I do not think this is workable. The idea is silly, no-one will read such a thread. And of course this will create the need to moderate in Russian. I have no time/interest to moderate in any language.

    Just write bilingual posts, text in Russian plus Google-translated version, as a courtesy to people who take their time to read your posting.

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    Я не понимаю в чём тут идея. Если будет всего один тред на русском языке, все вопросы на русском окажутся в одной огромной куче? И даже если меня интересуют только "Разработка", мне придётся читать кашу из всех разделов? никто не будет читать такой тред, глупая затея. И, конечно, для такого треда, кроме всего прочего, потребуется русский модератор. Я не возьмусь модерировать ни на каком языке.

    Если есть проблема чётко сформулировать вопрос, пиши двуязычный пост: текст по-русски + гугл-транслейт. Береги время людей, если тебе хочется, чтобы они отвечали на твои вопросы.
  • edited January 2015
    Если есть трудности перевода каких-то сложных-непонятных технических, которых я не увидел, к слову сказать, в вашем посте, терминов, то наверное имеет смысл спросить перевод именно этих терминов, потому что если спрашивать перевод сразу же предложений, статей и постов, то это как-то вульгарно, что ли, так как тянет уже на работу (судя по тону поста, это полная занятость), которая, как известно, оплачивается деньгами.
  • edited January 2015
    tbh I've no problem someone writing in their native tongue, I would just hate to miss out on some juicy new developments

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    чтобы быть честным , у меня нет проблем кто-то не писать на своем родном языке , я бы просто ненавижу упустить некоторые сочные новых разработок

    (using an auto translate, I've no idea if it bears any resemblance to what I have written I'm sure someone can put me right)
  • edited January 2015
    introspec wrote: »
    I do not see how this is supposed to work. With just one thread, all Russian language questions are supposed to end up in the same pile? So if I want to read things related to Development, I end up reading about hardware? I do not think this is workable. The idea is silly, no-one will read such a thread. And of course this will create the need to moderate in Russian. I have no time/interest to moderate in any language.

    Just write bilingual posts, text in Russian plus Google-translated version, as a courtesy to people who take their time to read your posting.

    I agree.

    You will only need a few extra seconds to Google-translate your own posts to English. You will be able to post in any thread you want, and nobody will bother that translation isn't perfect. Problem solved!
    Creator of ZXDB, BIFROST/NIRVANA, ZX7/RCS, etc. I don't frequent this forum anymore, please look for me elsewhere.
  • edited January 2015
    introspec wrote: »
    Just write bilingual posts, text in Russian plus Google-translated version, as a courtesy to people who take their time to read your posting.

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    Если есть проблема чётко сформулировать вопрос, пиши двуязычный пост: текст по-русски + гугл-транслейт. Береги время людей, если тебе хочется, чтобы они отвечали на твои вопросы.

    Agreed - I do this at work with my customers, when they send emails in Spanish or Italian (or whatever) I always reply in their language but with an English translation underneath - this is mainly for my benefit as otherwise I forget what I've said!


    Согласен - я делаю это на работе со своими клиентами, когда они посылают письма на испанском или итальянском языке (или любой другой), я всегда отвечаю на их языке, но под Я положил английский перевод - это, главным образом, для моего же блага, как в противном случае я забываю, что я 'ве сказал!


    But I also "reverse translate" everything back to English first to make sure it's understandable both ways round and I'm not comparing anyone's wife to a big hippo :)
    The comp.sys.sinclair crap games competition 2015
    "Let's not be childish. Let's play Spectrum games."
  • edited January 2015
    Apart from the hardware question lol, I find this thread quite interesting.
    I was reading this article i've just found through wikimedia:
    "Write for machine translation"


    Edit:

    It seems useful to use colons and commas (especially after adverbs) in the same sentence.
  • I agree with BiNMaN I don't have any issue with our Russian friends speaking in there own language but I to would hate missing out on any info related to the speccy and I find the Russian projects very interesting to read as they have done a lot over the years with our beloved spectrum





    Я согласен с мусорщик У меня нет какой-либо вопрос с нашими российскими друзьями говорить на родном языке там , но я не хотел бы упустить любую информацию , связанной с Speccy , и я нахожу российские проекты Ver
    YA soglasen s musorshchik U menya net kakoy-libo vopros s nashimi rossiyskimi druz'yami govorit' na rodnom yazyke tam , no ya ne khotel by upustit' lyubuyu informatsiyu , svyazannoy s Speccy , i ya nakhozhu rossiyskiye proyekty Ver


    not that hard for us to translate hope it makes sense in Russian
  • edited March 2016
    ZX_NOVOSIB wrote: »
    1. If I'm going to collect Multiface3 (M3), the ROM which is the best? On this page seems to have all the necessary information for the M3 assembly. Is ROM, laid out there a better choice?
    Both those downloads contain identical versions of the Multiface 3 ROM.
    The only difference is that one of them also has a .jed file used by some PC eeprom burning software.
    ZX_NOVOSIB wrote: »
    2. When the M3 snapshot downloads, then at the beginning of downloading it sets the BORDER blue, while, as in the vast majority of the games should be a black border. In some games, the curb is not restored by means of the game, and after we restore the game situation have spoiled forever border: cry:
    Can I somehow change the ROM multifeysa that he established at boot time snapshot black border instead of blue?
    This is possible, but can be quite hard work.
    The procedure would be something like this:

    1) Find 7 bytes in RAM that aren't used by the game on startup. Its OK if the area is overwritten once the game has started.
    2) Poke the machine code bytes for LD A,<border colour>:OUT ($FE),a: JP <game start> into RAM.
    3) Poke the address of your border change routine into Multiface RAM at $23E8-9 (low byte first).
    4) Poke the characters for "RUN" into Multiface RAM at $2003-5
    5) The Red button will now execute your border change routine, then the game.
    ZX_NOVOSIB wrote: »
    3. I heard somewhere that there is a certain area of ​​the size of 8 KB in the M3., And that it can be used ostensibly for their own purposes. Can I upload your programa there? How? How it then cause?

    Poking the value $00 to RAM location $2003; will page the 8K multiface RAM into locations $2000-$3FFF: overlaying the top 8K of the Spectrum ROM.
    To page the ROM back in, poke $01 to RAM location $2003.
    At least two Romantic Robot products use this method - Genie and Lifeguard; so you could look at a disassembly of these programs for more information.
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    Everyone has a crap game inside them, let yours out!
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