So it's only denied FOR US! :>(

edited June 2005 in Games
This is freaking incredible! As you all know, codemasters made a point of not letting anyone play their silly games. But it seems only the speccy community is targetted. They are giving away Treasure Island Dizzy PC FOR FREE!!

http://www.codemasters.co.uk/downloads/index.php?downloadid=17409

Did I mention BMX Simulator?

http://www.codemasters.co.uk/downloads/?downloadid=16554

This is unbelivable! And there are still people around here that say we should respect these people. They laugh in our faces and many here even say "Thanks Master" :roll:
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  • edited June 2005
    Bunch of c*nts.
    Oh, no. Every time you turn up something monumental and terrible happens.
    I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
    --Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)

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  • edited June 2005
    The Spectrum versions of their games were often the most targeted by pirates and people who want to make money.

    Unfortunatley this means for integrity and security that the work is restricted. I ahve a number of their games one way or another and recommened you try and find them onine somewhere where people are selling.

    There was something about the programming acheivement on the Spectrum versions that captured peoples imaginations, unfortunatley people though... I could rip them off and make money.

    Image that mentality where people could downlaod the game from WOS and then the inlay and then use techniques to try and sell it for profit illegialy and claim rights of free distribution. Of couese without respect for copyrights and ownership.

    Intent.. intent ... intent.
    :o)
  • edited June 2005
    Actually, I think this has been posted before... I remember seeing a C64 and Dizzy mention....
    Oh, no. Every time you turn up something monumental and terrible happens.
    I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
    --Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)

    https://www.youtube.com/user/VincentTSFP
  • edited June 2005
    Those games make use of an adapted C64 emulator..

    Remember, Codemasters DO own the games so they can offer them for download if they want to
  • edited June 2005
    Couldn't care less. You call that having morals? I don't think so, and I'll be here posting their double standards forever

    Anyway, guess what? Quadrax has also a FREE remake and guess what, by the authors themselves!

    http://www.cauldron.sk/projects/quadrax/

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  • edited June 2005
    Or Terra Cognita, why not?

    http://www.ovine.net/game-terracognita.php
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  • edited June 2005
    On 2005-06-11 17:44, alban lusitanae wrote:
    Couldn't care less. You call that having morals? I don't think so

    I do.

    They take their most played games and offer them for free, downloadable from their website.

    Of the other companies that deny distribution, how many can you count that allow you to download them from their site?

    D.

  • edited June 2005
    Thankyou for the Terra Cognita download link. Excellent to see what people can do with remakes. Shame that Spectrum work is being restricted.

    WOS are restricting more titles as people are abviously seeing a rise in interest and activity and want to rip people off. English law protects their work partly from English peoples themselves.

    The Spectrum was really inventive and captured paeoples minds, that is still a part of English culture and some people won't just look they will resell and make everything rediculous.

    I like your heart and expression and your interest in the work of people and the artists. HHUuuuuugggggg :o))
  • edited June 2005
    Not the point Dunny.

    If they allow destribution from their site these games for free in other formats, they went to a lot of trouble to do so?

    Is there any reason they couldn't just say: "hey guys from WoS, we have posted a remake of this game. That game's spectrum version (AND THAT GAME ONLY) can be allowed for destribution on your site."?

    Don't be ridiculous. That doesn't make any sense, and you know it. Stop defending something which isn't defendable by intelligent logic and common sense.

    SPECTEAUM: Don't mention it, I'll be doing it again if I see anything else :) Cheers

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  • edited June 2005
    Alban chill

    they are only commode versions and are embedded in their own crappy little emulators.

    and were released for an anniversary, so all in all nothing to get hyped up over really.....plus you have to join their mailing list to get em :(

    just a big advert for codies really nothing much more

    its not like theyve granted permission for commode sites to give away all the commode codies games willy nilly and denied speccy sites
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  • edited June 2005
    Well unfortunatley people are fead up of being ripped off and they have the rights under laws of ownership.

    I would have to suggest that some one has tried to rip off Elite titles as they very recently were removed from the WOS for download.

    Last month people like you and me could have looked and played a piece of history, someone got inthe way and for now at least they will not be available. For a long time most games were available and WOS is very good and I have been using their database for more than 7 years or so.

    Why do people rip off the Spectrum? That's where the problem lies. Artists are generally happy for titles that are no longer for sale to be viewed for pleasure and historical interest.

    Code Masters titles were generally left largley available on numerous world sites for quite a while until people did not respect the work. More and more they were removed leaving almost only WOS with its references.

    Alas and woh, I can't even get some files for research as I am sometimes a writer!
  • edited June 2005
    :cry:
    Oh, bollucks.
  • edited June 2005
    By distributing the games from their site only, they can then monitor how popular it is, if it get's enough downloads this may then lead to some kind of retro release.

    I suppose they use the commodore versions as these have no colour clash and will therefore be more acceptable to the casual/modern gamer.
  • edited June 2005
    Oohhh sorry, English expression for accruacy don't you know :o)))
  • edited June 2005
    So what if distribution is denied. There is zillions of other games, just as good as the snobby denied stuff.

    It's a case of something is forbidden, so you want it. I say forget it.

    Denied games only keep the speccy wheels turning, if only in a small way.
  • edited June 2005
    More than that. If we didn't exist, i mean, retrogamers, they would not know there are still people interested in them.

    Right now, I give cheers for Ocean and all the other guys who take the clever approach: they let the ancient games go, and if they want to make sequels or sell CDs or revamp the titles afterwards in consoles and stuff they still do it leaving the retrogames free. Why? That way, they don't get retrogamers pissed and still moraly rip us off with new releases later, because they acted in goo approach.

    Bottom line is: would I buy a code masters game for a mobile? NO! Would I buy, for instance, back to skool for mobile even if I have at home? HELL YES!

    And I will NEVER again speak of ANY game, because they will see interest and attempt to cash in. :evil: I have a full download of the WoS archive so... only taken out the newer denied games. Don't speak of games anymore. I warn you: there are company spies on WoS, just waiting to know...

    That's the bottom line mel.

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  • edited June 2005
    Watch....

    People will either stop ripping people off and get board and go away from making money... or they will end up having to restrict more and more.

    WOS and other sites did an excellent job encouraging people to let their work be available for viewing. It's a shame that currently their work is being undone by profitiers!

  • edited June 2005
    If people started really targetting their work without respect you would see their work being restricted. The artists involved would make it so even if the Ocean label has changed ownership.

    It is excellent though that Ocean and Imagine titles are almost all available.
  • edited June 2005
    hear hear Specteaum
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  • edited June 2005
    I don't know what you're getting excited about, if you really want to play the games I'm sure you can find them elsewhere...

    ... oh, sorry, it's Alban who's upset...

    Seriously though, I don't know why these companies now try to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted. The games ARE available and they're not too difficult to find. Denying distribution is their right and even morally quite an acceptable form of action to take but to be honest really pointless due to the vast availability on the net. What they should be doing is working with sites like WOS and controlling and monitoring access to their games which would give them indicators as to which games are ripe for rejuvenation.
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  • edited June 2005
    On 2005-06-11 18:23, Spectea_um wrote:
    I would have to suggest that some one has tried to rip off Elite titles as they very recently were removed from the WOS for download.

    Whatever are you blabbering about???

    Several people on this forum have now mentioned Elite's games being removed, but I still don't understand this rumour. No Elite game has ever been removed from WoS, apart from the conversions of arcade games by Capcom (on behalf of Capcom, and those were removed more than 5 years ago).
    Seeing how some people continuue to speak highly negatively about Elite - completely undeserved in my view! - I wouldn't at all be surprised if Elite would turn around one day and indeed make us remove their games because of it.
    Could you please try to think before spouting off? Thank you.
  • edited June 2005
    This argument seems to pop up every few weeks. Like I said here John Wilson / Zenobi made the best choice, allowing WoS and The TZX Vault exclusive rights to distribute his games.

    Necros.
  • edited June 2005
    On 2005-06-11 18:23, Spectea_um wrote:
    Alas and woh, I can't even get some files for research as I am sometimes a writer!
    A writer??? Really???

    I won't say that surprises me but...
    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
  • edited June 2005
    Incredible how they let someone who so vigorly speaks all the time how pirate downloads are available and ready for consumption speak freely on WoS... I at least defend the law and only rant and rave about choices, not if they are legal or not...
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  • edited June 2005
    Well ladies qand gentlemen with the leaving of polite conversation there is nothing left.
  • edited June 2005
    On 2005-06-11 19:22, alban lusitanae wrote:
    Incredible how they let someone who so vigorly speaks all the time how pirate downloads are available and ready for consumption speak freely on WoS... I at least defend the law and only rant and rave about choices, not if they are legal or not...

    WAAAAAAAAAAAA?
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  • edited June 2005
    http://www.worldofspectrum.org/infoseekpub.cgi?regexp=^Elite+Systems+Ltd$&model=spectrum

    Where the denide's are lighting up people understandably discuss the kind of business that might be in progress.

    Sometimes ideas expressed are useful in context. Bye.
  • edited June 2005
    On 2005-06-11 19:22, alban lusitanae wrote:
    Incredible how they let someone who so vigorly speaks all the time how pirate downloads are available and ready for consumption speak freely on WoS... I at least defend the law and only rant and rave about choices, not if they are legal or not...
    Choices?? That is also what I am saying, if someone wants the denied games they can go and find them, it is not difficult , I am also saying that these companies should use sites like WOS to their own advantage instead burying their head in the sand and assume that because they have denied distribution that no-one will download their games anymore.

    Freedom of speech is allowed on WOS, I do not and would give out website addresses of where to find these games, I do not even download them myself I only download off WOS and then I usually delete them after a while. Unfortunately outside your perfect country cottage with the roses round the door is a big bad world where people do willingly break the law and we should all be aware of that. The choice, as you mentioned earlier, is whether people go and find what they want.

    Do you really think by not mentioning denied games that people will forget that they can be found elsewhere?
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  • edited June 2005
    On 2005-06-11 18:28, chop983 wrote:
    By distributing the games from their site only, they can then monitor how popular it is, if it get's enough downloads this may then lead to some kind of retro release.

    I suppose they use the commodore versions as these have no colour clash and will therefore be more acceptable to the casual/modern gamer.

    i agree. and easier for the average person to play with than say, WinUAE or some Atari ST emulator. you'll also notice how sites like lemon64 don't make them available even though these downloads from codemasters are c64 versions ( not pc. i wish they had the pc version of Treasure island dizzy since that game, as well as Crystal kingdom Dizzy and a couple others for PC, are thought to be lost! :) ) ... so i dont think it's personal and codemasters can do what they like.

    Dizzy sites which used to be the only places allowed to have the Dizzy games regardless of which version can now no longer have them. It has been this way for about a year now. this has happened after the last discussion about codemasters i remember being invloved in on this site, so maybe a year.

    to me personally this is a good thing. i know they and the oliver twins want to see whether a new dizzy game is worth doing. i do think they should put a link to the fantastic dizzy webite though. petition is at 2735 people (!)

    http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?dizzy
    On 2005-06-11 19:29, Spectea_um wrote:
    http://www.worldofspectrum.org/infoseekpub.cgi?regexp=^Elite+Systems+Ltd$&model=spectrum

    Where the denide's are lighting up people understandably discuss the kind of business that might be in progress.

    Sometimes ideas expressed are useful in context. Bye.

    im not sure what that means, but IF the link is to show us that not only Capcom-Elite games are denied, like Martijn said, you're wrong. the other denied titles in the list, which are compilations, are denied because they contain at least one title in the pack that isn't distributable. ( thats the reason *i think* they are denied anyway. it's what makes sense to me, correct me if im wrong )



  • edited June 2005
    On 2005-06-11 19:22, alban lusitanae wrote:
    Incredible how they let someone who so vigorly speaks all the time how pirate downloads are available and ready for consumption speak freely on WoS...

    Exactly who are you talking at here?

    Would you have the courage to stand up and actually point the finger? Or just sit there behind your keyboard on a self-righteous moral crusade against those who you deem "wrong"?

    Care to provide evidence of your claim? *All* the time? I think I already know who you are talking about.

    And now you're harping on, demanding censorship of voices in a public forum. The only form of censorship on these boards is linking to denied games. And it happens, regularly.

    It's people like you that have turned my stomach when reading here - there's been a lot of you what with gamestage and it's "supporters", all doing their best to make other people disadvantaged, and I've had it with the lot of you.

    You're a nasty piece of work, Alban, and you somehow think you have the right to tell people how to conduct their lives.

    You can fuck off with that one.

    D.

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