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  • edited March 2015
    weesam wrote: »
    But that is not the end of the law is it? The law not only talks about copying, it talks about use; distribution; re-distribution and broadcasting
    No, that's all down to messy license contracts between the copyright holders, publishers, radio stations etc.
    weesam wrote: »
    Copyright law, as it stands, is mostly unworkable, mostly uneforceable; and thankfully mostly ignored (even by those that pretend to uphold it; casting the first stone and all that).
    The industries that rely on copyright laws are absolutely massive and worth many billions of dollars per year so that suggests that none of those claims are true.
    weesam wrote: »
    The principle behind it is flawed and not fit for the digital age.
    The classic publishing and distribution models struggle to keep pace with the changes in the last 15 years but copyright suits a digital world just the same as it did a paper one.
    weesam wrote: »
    When you sign terms and conditions, you are giving your personal information to a private company to use as they wish. That's not a fair deal.
    That's nothing to do with copyright. You should campaign for stronger privacy laws.

    weesam wrote: »
    There are good arguments, and plenty of evidence, that copyright stifles creativity by limiting the exchange of ideas. Imagine if Tim Berners Lee took the selfish attitude : he gave away his idea, because he believed that good ideas are to be shared; that is the point of an idea. You are using a medium that is open to all. And this allows the exchange of ideas amongst people that have never, and would never likely have, access to these ideas.
    Well ignoring the fact that you can't copyright an idea, the existence of copyright doesn't stop you giving your things away if you want to, it stops people taking things and copying them when you don't want them too.

    So what if Berners Lee had been selfish? Well he could have just not told anyone about his idea or shown his software to anyone anyway. :p
  • edited March 2015
    weesam wrote: »
    Copyright law, as it stands, is mostly unworkable, mostly uneforceable; and thankfully mostly ignored (even by those that pretend to uphold it; casting the first stone and all that).

    The principle behind it is flawed and not fit for the digital age.

    Thankfully that's not anywhere near true, otherwise I'd have no business, and my copyright solicitor would be poor.
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  • zx1zx1
    edited March 2015
    This is getting out of hand. just ban weesam as he is becoming annoying. He seems to want to argue with anyone about anything, this is a forum, not an argument website.
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  • edited March 2015
    zx1 wrote: »
    This is getting out of hand. just ban weesam as he is becoming annoying. He seems to want to argue with anyone about anything, this is a forum, not an argument website.

    No I disagree with that ! This IS an arguing site, or am I just contradicting you ? By the way, is this a five minute argument, or did you pay for the full 10 ? ;)
    Every time I read that the oldest person in the world has died, I have to do a quick check to see it isn't ME..........
  • edited March 2015
    guesser wrote: »
    Well ignoring the fact that you can't copyright an idea,

    Tell that to Apple
  • edited March 2015
    zx1 wrote: »
    This is getting out of hand. just ban weesam as he is becoming annoying.
    That's not a good enough reason to ban someone or WoS would soon be empty :)
    You have to wait for him to break the rules properly, then descend on him like elite viper ships or whatever it was :)
    zx1 wrote: »
    He seems to want to argue with anyone about anything, this is a forum, not an argument website.

    ...

    Yes it is... :)

    EDIT: damn, grey key beat me to it :)
  • edited March 2015
    chop983 wrote: »
    Tell that to Apple

    Apple know exactly what you can and can't copyright, they aren't daft. :)
  • edited March 2015
    I thought God had the copyright on Apples ;)
    Every time I read that the oldest person in the world has died, I have to do a quick check to see it isn't ME..........
  • edited March 2015
    zx1 wrote: »
    This is getting out of hand. just ban weesam as he is becoming annoying. He seems to want to argue with anyone about anything, this is a forum, not an argument website.
    He can argue all he likes as long is he's respectful to other posters and doesn't resort to name-calling.

    He received a warning for that and has quite obviously heeded that warning and backed off.

    If I banned everybody that annoyed me then there'd only be me and Guesser left here.

    EDIT: There'd only be me and Dunny left here.
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  • edited March 2015
    karingal wrote: »
    If I banned everybody that annoyed me then there'd only be me and Guesser left here.

    EDIT: There'd only be me and Dunny left here.

    :lol:

    I read that first part and thought WTF? He must have finally gone completely senile ;)
  • edited March 2015
    guesser wrote: »
    :lol:

    I read that first part and thought WTF? He must have finally gone completely senile ;)

    Yeah, just blown out 51 candles, feeling a bit light headed.
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  • zx1zx1
    edited March 2015
    guesser wrote: »
    That's not a good enough reason to ban someone or WoS would soon be empty :)
    You have to wait for him to break the rules properly, then descend on him like elite viper ships or whatever it was :)



    ...

    Yes it is... :)

    EDIT: damn, grey key beat me to it :)

    No he didn't!
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  • edited March 2015
    karingal wrote: »
    Yeah, just blown out 51 candles, feeling a bit light headed.

    I take it nobody could find the rest of the candles then?
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  • zx1zx1
    edited March 2015
    The trouble with tribbles is.......
  • edited March 2015
    fogartylee wrote: »
    I take it nobody could find the rest of the candles then?

    Oh my aching sides...
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  • edited March 2015
    karingal wrote: »
    Oh my aching sides...

    That'll be the dodgy hip replacements...
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  • edited March 2015
    GreenCard wrote: »
    A thread about denied games. Should I get the popcorn in now? ;)

    Enjoying the show? Popcorn must be running low though. Another bag? :D
  • edited March 2015
    Enjoying the show? Popcorn must be running low though. Another bag? :D

    It's ok, feels like I've seen it before though, and it's got that baddie that no-one likes in it. More popcorn? Yes please. Salted. :-)
  • fogfog
    edited March 2015
    was the re occurrence ratio of this thread, every 1 or 2 years ?

    I do get both sides of the dev's and gamer. it's not so different from music / mp3 etc, really. Feel it's more so to do with IP than any spectrum stuff, well unless it's being emulated.
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