'household canvass' letter, threats of £1000 fine...

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  • pfff... stop being practical. I'm trying to look like a hardcore anarchist here

    might do later.
  • Didn't he already say something about 10 seconds vs 10 minutes, or some such gubbins. He's practically loaning himself 590 seconds by using the text option.
    karingal wrote: »
    So why not do it online like I did?

    What now?
  • F_Clowder wrote: »
    Didn't he already say something about 10 seconds vs 10 minutes, or some such gubbins. He's practically loaning himself 590 seconds by using the text option.
    karingal wrote: »
    So why not do it online like I did?
    I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about...
    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
  • Ask yourself:

    Is it a legal requirement to register? If so, by what means. Is it an act of parliament or part of common law?

    Do the body sending that letter have any legal standing? Are they actually entitled to collect money from you (by way of a fine)? My understanding of this point is, only a body (a person, an organisation etc) appointed by a court of law can impose a fine which you HAVE to pay.

    Suggest you do some research and see exactly where you stand. One word of warning however - don't get caught up too much in the "common law", "I am a freeman" thing, you WILL get f**ked over if you push too hard
    Oh bugger!<br>
  • edited September 2015
    What's the point of this drivel? No, a council can't technically force you to pay or register anything, but all they have to do is refer anyone who doesn't to the courts and you then will be compelled to pay up. And that can be done with a very quick hearing in a minor local court, and the highest courts in the country will back them all the way. The council is just adminstrating their legal responsibilities and checking you comply with the law. So what's the point of pedalling wilfully misleading assertions that they have no legal backing?

    What's this obsession with the court system as the last recourse anyway? Maybe you think the only way for the law to be administrated is for court judges to ride around on big motorbikes dispensing justice at gunpoint? I've met a few judges, and they might need some very big bikes... With stabilisers...
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    Joefish
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  • yeah I'm under no illusions that it's anything else other than a case of 'if they want to get you then they'll get you', regardless of all that citizen rights or ancient bylaws stuff... on the other hand I wouldn't put it past the gov to make completely empty threats which they have no plans to enforce, just so they can make people do things. I'm not really trying to make a 'point' by not filling in the form, but I don't like being threatened to jump through hoops
  • My mate got one of these letters, but no mention of a £1000 fine.

    The powers that be know (amongst certain demographics) the vast majority of these letters are destined for the round filing cabinet and with it that persons right to vote.

    Job done!
  • Just write back to them and point out that it's offensive to be threatened on their initial request; had you ignored the form and they had to send you a reminder, then you could understand the escalation, but there's no need for it up-front. They could simply state any legal requirement. And a 'Return-By' date would focus the mind more than any threat.

    At least then they have to take the time to read it - you may even get a reply, and change the form next time. At least you know you'll have wasted some of their time...

    You know, instead of ours... 8-}
    Joefish
    - IONIAN-GAMES.com -
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