Any FIFA 16 players on here who can answer this.

edited March 2016 in Chit chat
Might be a long shot but thought i'd ask.

EA recently came under fire to remove Adam Johnson from the game but said they couldn't completely remove him from some users games.

Seeming as most gaming news sites can't be arsed to do any further research on why they can't and just copy pasted what the Sun wrote i wanted to find out my self why EA couldn't remove him from "some users games".

I dont like football nor do i play Fifa and the last one i did play was Fifa 98 Road to World Cup on N64 so i;m a bit out of whack with what kind of game modes Fifa 16 has evolved.

My initial thought on the "some peoples games" was that the original Fifa16 disc still has him on it and if someone was to play the game offline or local co-op without downloading any patches then he'd still be playable.

I'm wondering if it's more complicated than that though and it's some kind of online mode where some people who already play as Sunderland cant have him removed as it would corrupt the save game in some way.

What puzzled me was, and i don't like defending EA but im sure they want this guy removed from their product quick smart any way and it''s not for a lack of trying that he's still knocking a ball up and down a virtual pitch.

So can anyone fill me in (oooh-errr)
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  • I'd have thought they're talking about people who don't have their machines online amend so can't have him patched out. But I guess there won't be many people who have modern machines off-line these days though. Take Xbone for example. I couldn't log into Xbox Live at one point over the weekend and the system was pretty much useless! Two of my games wouldn't even start if I wasn't online and one of them (Saints Row 4) isn't even an online game!
  • Even if they can't patch him "out" of the game as it might understandably cause corruption with some game saves surely they could "update" him instead to some sort of generic name/stats/etc.
  • I managed to find out that they do a kind of virtual panini sticker player pack that you buy in Fifa 16 where you get random players. He's been removed from the random packs for sale but if someone already owned him he's not deleted.

    People are purposely discarding this card effectively removing him from the game altogether.

    Heres a vid of a man in a rubber mask removing a shed load of them while swearing.

    (skip forward 20 seconds to avoid the ad he put at the start)

  • Does it matter? He'll not be in the next installment very soon
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  • Do non-official football games have the real players in? I'm sure I hear that in Formulae 1 racing games, non-official games can't have the real drivers' names, which to me is stupid and unfair.



    I'd have thought they're talking about people who don't have their machines online amend so can't have him patched out. But I guess there won't be many people who have modern machines off-line these days though. Take Xbone for example. I couldn't log into Xbox Live at one point over the weekend and the system was pretty much useless! Two of my games wouldn't even start if I wasn't online and one of them (Saints Row 4) isn't even an online game!

    I thought the XBox One had done away with that you-must-be-online-to-play-offline-games security, as it drove away so many potential buyers from the console when it was announced? It drove me away, of the previous two generations, I preferred the XBox/XBox 360 over the PS2/PS3, but this generation I bought a PS4 because of things like the possibility that Microsoft's always online security might come back. Thanks to M$'s ****-the-consumer DRM intrusions I've missed Halo 5, The Rare Revival collection (I'd love that!), probably Quantum Break, etc.







    Back on topic, sort of, regarding football. In the film, Porridge (a great film, based on the great TV series), someone asks a potential referee "Say the game is underway, and a stray dog comes onto the pitch, and knocks the ball into the goal, would you allow that goal?". Would that goal, according to the proper football rules, be allowed? I'd imagine not, but this topic got my few remaining brain cells to remember the question from the film, so what is the answer?

    Actually, something else I've always wondered, what was the highest ever score in a football match? I mean a real match, as in football league or something, not two gangs of kids of course.
  • Seems a bit silly to me.
  • Slaughter, warfare and casual killing, all completely acceptable subjects for gaming.
  • Well I *might* understand the *problem* if the game was made AFTER the fact but as it was before it's smells of "look at us! we're so thoughtful we want to remove reference to a naughty boy"...aka over sensitive political correctness.

    Sounds like something Americans would do... /insert eye roll here.
  • ewgf wrote: »
    I'd have thought they're talking about people who don't have their machines online amend so can't have him patched out. But I guess there won't be many people who have modern machines off-line these days though. Take Xbone for example. I couldn't log into Xbox Live at one point over the weekend and the system was pretty much useless! Two of my games wouldn't even start if I wasn't online and one of them (Saints Row 4) isn't even an online game!

    I thought the XBox One had done away with that you-must-be-online-to-play-offline-games security, as it drove away so many potential buyers from the console when it was announced? It drove me away, of the previous two generations, I preferred the XBox/XBox 360 over the PS2/PS3, but this generation I bought a PS4 because of things like the possibility that Microsoft's always online security might come back. Thanks to M$'s ****-the-consumer DRM intrusions I've missed Halo 5, The Rare Revival collection (I'd love that!), probably Quantum Break, etc.

    I think the DRM must be hard coded into the Xbone and has just been patched by updates as the console is pretty much useless if it can't get online! It'll play blu-rays but that's about it!

    It could be that the games I wanted to play were ones I'd bought from the store and not discs, but still, it's annoying that I couldn't play the games I'd actually paid money for!

    The PS4 doesn't like being offline either, but its nowhere near as bad as the Xbox. It put me off buying one at launch too.
  • ewgf wrote: »
    Back on topic, sort of, regarding football. In the film, Porridge (a great film, based on the great TV series), someone asks a potential referee "Say the game is underway, and a stray dog comes onto the pitch, and knocks the ball into the goal, would you allow that goal?". Would that goal, according to the proper football rules, be allowed? I'd imagine not, but this topic got my few remaining brain cells to remember the question from the film, so what is the answer?

    Yes, it should stand. I believe the rule is that any non-player object (including the referee himself) deflects the ball into the goal it would stand. There was a famous incident not that long ago where the player, Darren Bent, had a shot that was going wide, hit a beach ball that someone in the crowd had thrown onto the pitch, which deflected the ball into the goal. Referee allowed the goal.
  • Vampyre wrote: »
    ewgf wrote: »
    Back on topic, sort of, regarding football. In the film, Porridge (a great film, based on the great TV series), someone asks a potential referee "Say the game is underway, and a stray dog comes onto the pitch, and knocks the ball into the goal, would you allow that goal?". Would that goal, according to the proper football rules, be allowed? I'd imagine not, but this topic got my few remaining brain cells to remember the question from the film, so what is the answer?

    Yes, it should stand. I believe the rule is that any non-player object (including the referee himself) deflects the ball into the goal it would stand. There was a famous incident not that long ago where the player, Darren Bent, had a shot that was going wide, hit a beach ball that someone in the crowd had thrown onto the pitch, which deflected the ball into the goal. Referee allowed the goal.

    Yep Sunderland v Liverpool (17/10/2009) - Sunderland won 1-0 because of that, grrrrrrrrrr :(


    So far, so meh :)
  • yeah immediately thought of that incident too, however if it actually had been a dog, I bet the goal would not have stood.
  • Of course, people can always use team transfer and stick him in a Korean league, or, if they play as Sunderland, sell him to a foreign club, or edit him out of the game. At least until EA fix it.
  • def chris wrote: »
    yeah immediately thought of that incident too, however if it actually had been a dog, I bet the goal would not have stood.

    I think it all depends on whether the referee has stopped play or not. If the dog had briefly ran onto the pitch and it ricocheted off it, similar to the beach ball incident, or if the ball's in the air, hits a pigeon and goes in, then I believe it would have to stand. If a dog ran on, played with the ball for a few seconds, the referee whistles to stop play and then the mutt puts it into the net then it wouldn't.

    I have vague memories of having a similar conversation with a colleague who was a qualified ref, sometime in the early 90's. I'm sure it was pretty black-and-white that the referee had to have stopped the play. Of course rules could have changed since then - that was a time when the keeper could pick up a back pass so it shows how long ago it was :-)
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  • shame that was a dalek instead of K-9 :)
    Vampyre wrote: »
    def chris wrote: »
    yeah immediately thought of that incident too, however if it actually had been a dog, I bet the goal would not have stood.

    I think it all depends on whether the referee has stopped play or not. If the dog had briefly ran onto the pitch and it ricocheted off it, similar to the beach ball incident, or if the ball's in the air, hits a pigeon and goes in, then I believe it would have to stand. If a dog ran on, played with the ball for a few seconds, the referee whistles to stop play and then the mutt puts it into the net then it wouldn't.

    yeah fair point. hard to police it but I personally think there should be a blanket rule that if the ball (while in play) makes contact with (and/or is noticeably diverted by) any physical object other than: a player, the ref, the goalposts, the corner flag... then the game should be stopped and have a drop-ball.

    good job it's something that only happens once a decade or so ...
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