NASA Mars Rovers faked?

edited May 2016 in Chit chat
Recently discovered this from this video here.


Apparently, the Mars rover's Opportunity/Curiosity, is in Alaska, NOT Mars. There are two possibilities. Either, there are NASA photo's which show earthly objects and life from Earth, or there is evidence of life on Mars which NASA don't care about.

The second possibility is just stupid, because the whole point of the rover's is to find evidence of life.

Why aren't NASA whooping and cheering for finding a Crinoid fossil on Mars? Or even a more astounding living Alaskan Arctic Lemming on Mars?

Who believes, AFTER watching the film above, that the Mars rover's are on Mars and not Earth?
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  • 1:33 minutes long? Hmmmmm nope I'll not be watching it.

    Simply don't have time.

    I'd maybe like to though I like a good conspiracy/comparison of "facts", but nope not enough hours in the day to indulge in this one...
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  • edited May 2016
    Amateur paranoid idiot knows better than thousands of people with vastly superior education and professional standing? Sounds familiar. Sounds worth an hour and a half of my time? Not so much...

    As for where those rovers are? They're all over the place. There was one in Leicester until not so long ago. Doesn't mean there aren't any on Mars as well though.
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  • What do *you* believe, Frank?
  • What do I believe?

    Faked photos or fake mission.

    If the official NASA photos are to be believed, there is a living Lemming on Mars, which appears on one photo, and not on another taken of the same area at a different time. A sea creature fossils on rocks. And a man's shadow leaning over the rover to clean its panels when it got too dirty. There are a couple of photo's of men on Mars cleaning the Mars rover panels now. How gullable do they think we are?

    That's what I think.
  • sigh! :)
    Sod it!

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  • If they were going to all the effort of running a massive global conspiracy why would they create self incriminating evidence and send it all the way to Mars and back and publish it so that they could be caught out?

    Someone here's certainly gullible...
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  • edited May 2016
    joefish wrote: »
    Amateur paranoid idiot

    richard d hall was an engineer for NEI/Rolls Royce for 16 years, can't be that amateur. I like his vids tbh. straight ahead, no reptiles/illuminate nonsense. sometimes he goes a bit too far down the rabbit hole for my liking, but he's not standard youtube tin foil hat fare... imo

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    I'm sure he was in the seat behind be when I went to watch starwars.....

  • FrankT wrote: »
    What do I believe?

    Faked photos or fake mission.

    If the official NASA photos are to be believed, there is a living Lemming on Mars, which appears on one photo, and not on another taken of the same area at a different time. A sea creature fossils on rocks. And a man's shadow leaning over the rover to clean its panels when it got too dirty. There are a couple of photo's of men on Mars cleaning the Mars rover panels now. How gullable do they think we are?

    That's what I think.

    And who released these photos of these men cleaning the panels and one containing a lemming?
  • edited May 2016
    redballoon wrote: »
    And who released these photos of these men cleaning the panels and one containing a lemming?
    He's talking about some photos with strange shadows and optical illusions in that have been thoroughly debunked. I believe the "lemming" refers to a particularly boring rock that the rover drove past a few years back.
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  • I should also point out that Curiosity doesn't have any solar panels, so even if the shadow cast by the equipment on the robot arm was from a poorly redacted human it certainly wouldn't be cleaning solar panels.
  • I check the mars Curiousity Rover cameras almost on a daily basis - admittedly, it's via my Pebble Mars app on my watch (the first gen Pebble smart watch is the speccy equivalent of a smart watch!) but it's still displays basic 'images' of the camera views, updated ever few hours - showing general shadows, contrasting details, including (sometimes) the shadow of the rover itself, and it's armature. On a good day, you can make out quite specific rock and and landscape detailing as well!

    Obviously, much clearer / higher quality imaging is available at Nasa's own website - but for the most part, I've never seen anything remotely fake-worthy, or unusual in the 'smoke and mirrors' sense of the phrase.

    Nonetheless - there are a lot of amazing, and beautiful landscapes to view on Mars, buuuuuut I ain't seen any pyramids, lemmings, yetis, shadow-dancers, Slenderman, etc, etc... And believe me, I'd be stoked if the rover discovered something of a truly 'oooooer!' nature on the surface - but so far, I just have to settle for the beauty and wonder of Mars itself, in all it's amazing glory / detail!

    My tuppence! :)
  • guesser wrote: »
    redballoon wrote: »
    And who released these photos of these men cleaning the panels and one containing a lemming?
    He's talking about some photos with strange shadows and optical illusions in that have been thoroughly debunked. I believe the "lemming" refers to a particularly boring rock that the rover drove past a few years back.
    I suppose what i'm trying to say is that if these were official photos and there were "men" in in that, y'know, somebody would've noticed, yeah? Frank?

  • Why is it always about NASA?

    Never British rail and their faking of "the wrong type of snow" or "leaves on the line" etc...
  • i lasted 12 minutes, its just all ifs, maybes, probablys and harks back to arguements ive seen about moon tech, ie:- not being able to withstand tempratures etc, this time they are poopooing batteries and solar panels lol, comparaing em to laptop batteries and mobillity scooters Oo
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  • edited May 2016
    Beginning to think everything in space is fake.

    In WW2 they had a proto GPS system that only used ground based towers.
    It was called Loran, then it used in the Vietnam war and the accuracy was upgraded to the same as modern day GPS.
    GPS signals are around 1.2ghz to 1.3ghz there are these clouds that appear sometimes called noctilucent clouds ,people send in photos of them to the BBC and they are shown,nthese clouds are highly reflective to the same frequency as GPS 1.2ghz
    So if there were satellites their signals would bounce off these clouds into space.

    Signals can be transmitted large distances by bouncing off the ionosphere or troposphere.

    Alaska was covered with a network called 'white alice' which used signals bounced off the troposphere. Very few stations were used.
    Shortwave radio can be transmitted thousand of kilometres using the ionosphere. This is how boat captains are a!ways allowed to use the radio to call for help.
    So basically there is no need for satellites, Google is using airships to beam wifi into remote areas because satellites don't even make economical sense.

    Everything that satellites claim to do can be achieved with towers,we certainly see a lot of towers everywhere.
    Weather satellites produce the same images as Doppler radar towers on the ground.
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  • right i watched some more...theyre a bunch of tits
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    right im now bored of that so watching the great grape ape show instead


    Post edited by mel the bell on
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  • edited May 2016
    Generally the argument seems to be "If I'm too stupid to understand it then I refuse to believe anyone else could do it".
    Post edited by joefish on
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  • It does look like a rodent in the bottom left


    http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA16204.jpg
  • slenkar wrote: »
    Everything that satellites claim to do can be achieved with towers,we certainly see a lot of towers everywhere.

    There's not a lot of towers in the middle of oceans, or jungles, or deserts, or yorkshire...
  • edited May 2016
    DAFUQ!?! Seriously, why would NASA even bother to fake a rover mission?
    Post edited by Dave_C on
  • slenkar wrote: »
    It does look like a rodent in the bottom left
    Unless you cover up the dark spot that makes your brain register an eye. Then it looks like a rock.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia
  • Dear oh dear, some people are desperate for there to be a conspiracy theory that they'll believe anything.

    The gullible ones are not the people who make these theory's up but the people who believe them.
    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
  • Nasa has not enough photos so they passed some renders of Devon island on north Canada to keep the crowdfundings going. I wonder how many bullshit soviet and american agreed to pass to the public.
  • id love to see a real life meet up between a bunch of hardcore conspiracy theorists and a bunch of guys who toe the official line on everything, all locked in a room together with a load of baseball bats and knuckle dusters. wonder who would kick off first? or maybe there'd be some kind of awkward silence then a truce, followed by bro-hugs and merry dancing.
  • edited June 2016
    guesser wrote: »
    slenkar wrote: »
    Everything that satellites claim to do can be achieved with towers,we certainly see a lot of towers everywhere.

    There's not a lot of towers in the middle of oceans, or jungles, or deserts, or yorkshire...

    As mentioned, shortwave radio works in the middle of any ocean, no satellites involved.
    Other atmospheric bouncing techniques have been discovered since the invention of shortwave radio too.

    The GPS system used in WW2 (LORAN) relied on towers built on land, but worked over the whole Atlantic.
    Only seven towers were needed for this,one in Greenland one in the UK, some in the US and some in Canada.
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    I'd like to believe that men of science would refrain from cracking skulls of ignoramuses even in the interests of seeing if there's a brain inside.

    When it comes to verbal arguments though the conspiracy theorists always "win" debates for the same reason religious nutters do. Any evidence that contradicts their wild accusations has been fabricated as part of the conspiracy so therefore doesn't count.
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  • guesser wrote: »
    slenkar wrote: »
    It does look like a rodent in the bottom left
    Unless you cover up the dark spot that makes your brain register an eye. Then it looks like a rock.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia

    Exactly what I thought
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