NASA Mars Rovers faked?

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  • guesser wrote: »
    slenkar wrote: »
    It does look like a rodent in the bottom left
    Unless you cover up the dark spot that makes your brain register an eye. Then it looks like a rock.

    I'm sorry I just don't see it with or without covering up my eye. But I do note that the rocky features consists of many, many rocks of various shapes and sizes and color gradations. What are the chances that our brain (which loves patterns), will eventually pick a random shape from the photograph that co-relates to *something* (especially if there's an external suggestion to look for it)? ;)
  • slenkar wrote: »
    The GPS system used in WW2 (LORAN) relied on towers built on land, but worked over the whole Atlantic.
    Only seven towers were needed for this,one in Greenland one in the UK, some in the US and some in Canada.

    Yes and? LORAN works but GPS is better. It's more accurate and can use tiny antennas on the receiver. Horses are perfectly good for getting to town but that doesn't mean that cars aren't better and more useful.

    GPS gives highly accurate and very consistent positioning across the entire globe with 31 satellites. There are (were) a lot more LORAN-C stations than that, covering less of the planet at lower accuracy.
  • Anybody who's believes any of that rubbish on the video is a complete fruit loop...
    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
  • Arjun wrote: »
    I'm sorry I just don't see it with or without covering up my eye.
    No, covering up the "eye" of the "rabbit"
    Arjun wrote: »
    What are the chances that our brain (which loves patterns), will eventually pick a random shape from the photograph that co-relates to *something*
    That's precisely the effect the wikipedia article is about :p
  • Guys, it doesn't matter that Frank is a raving lunatic. It doesn't matter that he's turning greeny-blue. It doesn't matter that he believes that the Mars Rovers are in Alaska - he can believe they're anywhere. It doesn't change anything. No matter how many conspiracy theorists start calling out what scientists and engineers are doing, not a single one of them will stop and say "You got me, well done" - they'll just carry on doing what they do and no conspiracy theory no matter how stupid will slow them down even by a second.

    So let them have their fun. If they want to believe that there have been no humans on the moon - let them. It doesn't change the truth. If they want to believe that GPS satellites are faked, let them - and just carry on using your GPS satellite sensing equipment, because their opinion can't change that either.

  • edited June 2016
    def chris wrote: »
    id love to see a real life meet up between a bunch of hardcore conspiracy theorists and a bunch of guys who toe the official line on everything, all locked in a room together with a load of baseball bats and knuckle dusters. wonder who would kick off first? or maybe there'd be some kind of awkward silence then a truce, followed by bro-hugs and merry dancing.

    Buzz Aldrin lamps some conspiracy fucktard... Awesome. :-bd
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  • What I don't understand is why the Americans (Not being racist, it seems like it's almost always Americans who doubt the moon landing/NASA/related things, and of course it's only the tiny minority who do doubt them) doubt these things, yet seem oblivious to the way their civil rights are being eroded post 2001.
  • There seems to be a strong overlap between f***wit cretins who believe any old conspiracy theory and f***wit cretins who are so easily scared into giving away their freedoms. I wonder what they have in common?

    Joefish
    - IONIAN-GAMES.com -
  • edited June 2016
    Dunny wrote: »
    No matter how many conspiracy theorists start calling out what scientists and engineers are doing, not a single one of them will stop and say "You got me, well done" - they'll just carry on doing what they do and no conspiracy theory no matter how stupid will slow them down even by a second.
    So let them have their fun.

    No, these things need dismantling at every opportunity. Not to convince the inconvincible fanatically anti-science people who sit dribbling this nonsense all over the internet, but to point out all the fallacies to the sensible but uneducated people who come along and read it who might get sucked in.
    It's harmless to believe the US somehow fabricated the moon landing, but what about measles vaccines? Should we let the anti vaccination morons just have their fun and leave them to it to post their drivel all over the place? It's all the same.
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  • Dave_C wrote: »

    Buzz Aldrin lamps some conspiracy fucktard... Awesome. :-bd
    as if there wasnt enough conspiracy already he got his bible out!

    aldrin's response should've been "I'm too stupid to understand how jesus walked on water therefore it didn't happen"



  • Haha the old superhero patriot was so keen to beat this loony guy. God save lunatics, not only astronauts can visit the moon
  • For a guy in his 70's though he's still got a good straight arm on him, I reckon if this prick had've approached him 30 years previous he'd have been picking his teeth up off the floor :))
    Every night is curry night!
  • 1) It's not lichen

    2) It's not a plank of wood
    Joefish
    - IONIAN-GAMES.com -
  • Wait a minute, everyone knows the moon landing was faked! :)) :)) :))
    The trouble with tribbles is.......
  • Of course it wasn't, if it was there'd be no soup!!!
    Every night is curry night!
  • the thing these theorists forget is...........if nasa released these pictures, dont you think they will have seen em first? Oo
    Would they really release pictures with dodgy things in that only strokey beard, have sex with mummy, youtube video gloryfying weirdos can see?
    Professional Mel-the-Bell Simulator................"So realistic, I found myself reaching for the Kleenex King-Size!" - Richard Darling
  • All I care about is the fact I have a pair of sunglasses that let me see the lizard army, so I know who to shoot and who not to shoot...
    Every night is curry night!
  • All I care about is the fact I have a pair of sunglasses that let me see the lizard army, so I know who to shoot and who not to shoot...
    those glasses are a rip off, just munch a kilo of freshly picked shrooms instead. Lizards everywhere!

    ive got a mate who runs a 'herbal' website, who reckons if you eat peyote and look at the night sky youll see mars instantly. I dont trust him tho, on the basis that hes a white guy with an afro :)
  • edited June 2016
    Anyone is free to think whatever they want.
    But on the real world, a faith/belief based car doesn't run while a physics based one does...
    Post edited by 4throck on
  • slenkar wrote: »
    What is the skeptics explanation for the...

    What, so we're the 'skeptics' now because we don't believe a crackpot conspiracy theory...? @-)
  • Love these conspiracy theories/videos. They are usually hilarious backed by true 'facts' that have no basis in reality. It's always NASA too, never any other space agency that is accused of fakery.

    Love the flat earth theories too, they need to be seen to be believed.
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  • If people believe we went to the moon it gives them a big head,prideful.

    I think China,Russia and India would have gone there by now.

    People still climb Everest even though it's been done.
  • Yeah, they're the same.
  • edited June 2016
    Russia is like, what happened to the tapes and they want to investigate the moonrock.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-calls-investigation-into-whether-us-moon-landings-happened-10327714.html

    I don't really see why some other country wouldn't want to achieve something so amazing that was done with sixties tech.

    Post edited by slenkar on
  • Geez, my most popular post yet. Just signed in and got 53 notifications!

    This may take a while to get through, and I don't have much time tonight.
    redballoon wrote: »
    FrankT wrote: »
    What do I believe?

    Faked photos or fake mission.

    If the official NASA photos are to be believed, there is a living Lemming on Mars, which appears on one photo, and not on another taken of the same area at a different time. A sea creature fossils on rocks. And a man's shadow leaning over the rover to clean its panels when it got too dirty. There are a couple of photo's of men on Mars cleaning the Mars rover panels now. How gullable do they think we are?

    That's what I think.

    And who released these photos of these men cleaning the panels and one containing a lemming?

    NASA.

    The lemming is in this photo.
    http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA16204

    Bottom left, above the first black rock, between the first two white rocks together from the bottom left and upwards.
    Click on the jpg link and zoom in on those two white rocks together.

    It's an arctic lemming. If you restore the blue in the image, the lemming is grey with the arctic lemming distinctive white stripe on top of its neck.

    NASA uses Mars analog sites on Earth to film the rover in. They run a program for scientists to live in a pod in the middle of these arctic deserts for 6 months, monitoring/controlling the rover! It's part of the education now.
    http://www.marssociety.org/
    In the most remote and uninhabited places on earth that mimic the terain and conditions on Mars.

    The Spirit rover's panels have been totally covered in dirt, and in the middle of the night, have been cleaned.
    How can the panels clean themselves? There are no self cleaning mechanisms. The wind on Mars is too weak to blow them spotlessly clean, considering the thinness of the atmosphere. Wind has less than 100th of the effect as on earth.

    The shadow of a man leaning over the Spirit rover is on another archive. I've seen it before, but need to find the NASA link. It's in the film.
  • edited June 2016
    the thing these theorists forget is...........if nasa released these pictures, dont you think they will have seen em first? Oo
    Would they really release pictures with dodgy things in that only strokey beard, have sex with mummy, youtube video gloryfying weirdos can see?

    Absolutely not for the first part. NASA don't seem to analyse any of the data.
    Last year, an amateur astronomer looked at the flyby data of the voyager and casini. And by overlaying the red/green/blue pictures to get real colour, found that Neptune has the same polar hexagonal feature as Saturn. NASA never looked at it before. Even though the data was from 1989.
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  • Yeah...No.
  • slenkar wrote: »
    Russia is like, what happened to the tapes and they want to investigate the moonrock.
    One guy is at least. That's not the same as believing the moon landings were faked though #-o
    slenkar wrote: »
    I don't really see why some other country wouldn't want to achieve something so amazing that was done with sixties tech.
    What makes you think no country wants to return to the moon?
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