On 2005-07-11 18:51, JimDiGrizLovesAngelina wrote:
Its predicted to cost ?200 for every Man, Woman and Child in the UK.
What ever runs to budget for our clown govermnet.
Bit difficult to take what you say as gospel as you have been so over the top against it. I mean saying 'give the olympics to France' as you think the bombings were to do with the olympics. Very over the top views.
?200 quid a year for every person isnt that much, i probably pay 4 times that in tax for every jobless person, every 18 year old with 5 kids and so on and so on. I would rather my money go to something like the Olympics than some soap dodger on benefits.
I'm positive the World Cup in 66 probably cost a lot, i'm positive so many statues/buildings have also cost the taxpayer a ton over the years. The royalty costs each person i heard on the news ?68 pounds a year, i thought it would be much more but to me thats not bad at all, the revenue they generate is huge.
The war in Iraq has cost a bloody fortune, so why dont we winge about that instead of getting the Olympics ?
[ This Message was edited by: psj3809 on 2005-07-12 10:05 ]
'?200 quid a year for every person isnt that much, i probably pay 4 times that in tax for every jobless person, every 18 year old with 5 kids and so on and so on. I would rather my money go to something like the Olympics than some soap dodger on benefits.'
?200 quid a year is actually not a lot to you and me is it, but to the poor thats probably a years wage.
On 2005-07-12 22:01, JimDiGrizLovesAngelina wrote:
For the last time.
I never said the bombings were due to the Olympics at all.
What would have happened if the bombings were due to the Olympics and we didn't get the Olympics. Would the bombers have jumped on the Eurostar and gone and bombed Paris instead???
Nobody has said why these terrorists struck yet as far as I am aware.
It was, as is obvious to all, NOT because the Olympics were given to Britain, That is absurd.
" Its only gonna get worse i'm afraid.
This ****in' Olympics is gonna cost us dearly.Let the French have it. "
In another thread to me you seem to think it might have been to do with the Olympics, you seem to be implying that as you wrote that above in the thread about the bombings in London.
The London bombings were done after the winning of the olympic bid and also at the start of the G8 summit in Scotland.
Tony Blair commissioned the bombing to divert/cover up any news about the G8 and whatever went on there. (Have you read/watched/seen ANY news about the G8 since the explosions in London?)
Plus it was to gain simpathy and make the protesters feel guilty about the actions they caused outside the venue. That way, the police and locals would get less stressed.
It has also been done to further his bids to get identity cards at the front of the agenda.
Think about it.
And lastly......
The first thing that the government said about the underground explosions was a cover up - they said "power surges".
Ah, and news services in the UK will very soon (by law) have to show LIVE news events with a 5 minute delay (but still call it live) to edit out any unwanted video/spoken event.
[ This Message was edited by: MatGubbins on 2005-07-13 23:35 ]
I heard the first reports of the power surges in the tubes and thought it fairly implausable.
I put it down to officials not wanting to cause panic which would hamper the emergency services.
But,
I would be scared to speculate anymore.Are we turning into a Big Brother State?
On 2005-07-13 23:27, MatGubbins wrote:
The London bombings were done after the winning of the olympic bid and also at the start of the G8 summit in Scotland.
Tony Blair commissioned the bombing to divert/cover up any news about the G8 and whatever went on there. (Have you read/watched/seen ANY news about the G8 since the explosions in London?)
Plus it was to gain simpathy and make the protesters feel guilty about the actions they caused outside the venue. That way, the police and locals would get less stressed.
It has also been done to further his bids to get identity cards at the front of the agenda.
Think about it.
And lastly......
The first thing that the government said about the underground explosions was a cover up - they said "power surges".
Ah, and news services in the UK will very soon (by law) have to show LIVE news events with a 5 minute delay (but still call it live) to edit out any unwanted video/spoken event.
[ This Message was edited by: MatGubbins on 2005-07-13 23:35 ]
you sir are a buffoon
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[ This Message was edited by: chop983 on 2005-07-14 07:57 ]
On 2005-07-13 23:27, MatGubbins wrote:
The London bombings were done after the winning of the olympic bid and also at the start of the G8 summit in Scotland.
Tony Blair commissioned the bombing to divert/cover up any news about the G8 and whatever went on there. (Have you read/watched/seen ANY news about the G8 since the explosions in London?)
Plus it was to gain simpathy and make the protesters feel guilty about the actions they caused outside the venue. That way, the police and locals would get less stressed.
It has also been done to further his bids to get identity cards at the front of the agenda.
Think about it.
And lastly......
The first thing that the government said about the underground explosions was a cover up - they said "power surges".
Ah, and news services in the UK will very soon (by law) have to show LIVE news events with a 5 minute delay (but still call it live) to edit out any unwanted video/spoken event.
I'm sorry but thats just absurd. You have spent WAY too long watching the X Files and reading geeky reports about conspiracy theories.
"Tony Blair commissioned the bombing " - That really is pretty sick and sooo stupid. At the G8 summit most of the talk was money for Africa.
And yes they did say power surges at first as when the first bomb went off in the Tube who knew instantly it was a bomb ? They probably said that as they didnt want mass panic while evacuating.
I think identity cards are a great idea, thought that before and still think that now.
For you to think Tony Blair commissioned it, jesus thats very sick and one of the worst posts ever at this forum. Totally stupid
Homes will be lost.
Long term jobs will be lost .
Terrorist magnet.
Too expensive.
It'll only get dirty after a while.
Little babies will start crying when it gets noisy.
Should have given it to the pesky frogs. (Keep their little minds preoccupied for a while)
I'm with the Bognor guy though.
Theres better ways to spend out HARD earned money.
I was slagging off Blair Left< >Right and >Centre< years before this attack and due to the dutifully respectful way he has handled it, I have held my tongue about his pathetic ways for a week.
Now I feel I can open up a little on him.
This whole war on terrorism is bullshit from start to finish.
As if by invading Iraq and Afganistan, using terror tactics (eg. shock and awe, SICK weapons such as the deceptively named daisy cutter, torture and repression) you will defeat terror.
Two wrongs dont make a right.
In a few weeks when the dust settles, focus will be back on this hugely unpopular war.
What next Tony, or should we just ask that moron George?
Well its easy to say after the event (Invasion of Iraq) but if anything its made things worse.
Then again ole Tony cant win. When they had the test runs of gas/bomb attacks in London last year people were saying what a waste of money that was and it could have been better spent on something else, now you look back thinking it was well worth spending that money.
I do think these nutters would strike whether we invaded Iraq or not though but who knows.
According to MatGubbins Tony Blair did all this himself anyway so lets blame him for everything bad in the world as surely he did it.
I must admit i originally thought it was going to help, say Saddam wasnt removed then imagine nowadays hes inviting every nut over and is training them up etc. Yes not too different from nowadays but i do think that removing someone like Saddam from power is a good thing for the world, but then again theres other crazies, Mugabe and North Korea.
Obviously now looking back its made the situation no better if not worse but who would have thought that 3 or 4 years ago.
The only 'benefit' from the invasion is that i hope now US/UK stop invading countries to 'help out' and should just keep to their own problems in their own countries.
At the end of the day the US originally trained and armed many of these muslims when they were fighting the soviets in Checnya (sp). Total mess the whole situation and i cant believe we voted Tony back in
I can see a day when the US just shuts its borders.
We cant do that here.
Another point, next time you see militants, insurgents, rebels or whatever anywhere in the world just take a look at their weapons.
Made in USA, made in Russia or made in China.
Stopping the arms trade is a good thing as countries in dissarry with dictators generally find it very difficult to manufacture serious arms.
Dont we still make a killing from the arms trade.
(See Mark Thomas Project for inspiration)
[ This Message was edited by: JimDiGrizLovesAngelina on 2005-07-15 16:21 ]
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Bit difficult to take what you say as gospel as you have been so over the top against it. I mean saying 'give the olympics to France' as you think the bombings were to do with the olympics. Very over the top views.
?200 quid a year for every person isnt that much, i probably pay 4 times that in tax for every jobless person, every 18 year old with 5 kids and so on and so on. I would rather my money go to something like the Olympics than some soap dodger on benefits.
I'm positive the World Cup in 66 probably cost a lot, i'm positive so many statues/buildings have also cost the taxpayer a ton over the years. The royalty costs each person i heard on the news ?68 pounds a year, i thought it would be much more but to me thats not bad at all, the revenue they generate is huge.
The war in Iraq has cost a bloody fortune, so why dont we winge about that instead of getting the Olympics ?
[ This Message was edited by: psj3809 on 2005-07-12 10:05 ]
I never said the bombings were due to the Olympics at all.
?200 quid a year is actually not a lot to you and me is it, but to the poor thats probably a years wage.
and that soap dodger still gets his scrounge!???
It was, as is obvious to all, NOT because the Olympics were given to Britain, That is absurd.
I think its been deleted now?
" Its only gonna get worse i'm afraid.
This ****in' Olympics is gonna cost us dearly.Let the French have it. "
In another thread to me you seem to think it might have been to do with the Olympics, you seem to be implying that as you wrote that above in the thread about the bombings in London.
Tony Blair commissioned the bombing to divert/cover up any news about the G8 and whatever went on there. (Have you read/watched/seen ANY news about the G8 since the explosions in London?)
Plus it was to gain simpathy and make the protesters feel guilty about the actions they caused outside the venue. That way, the police and locals would get less stressed.
It has also been done to further his bids to get identity cards at the front of the agenda.
Think about it.
And lastly......
The first thing that the government said about the underground explosions was a cover up - they said "power surges".
Ah, and news services in the UK will very soon (by law) have to show LIVE news events with a 5 minute delay (but still call it live) to edit out any unwanted video/spoken event.
[ This Message was edited by: MatGubbins on 2005-07-13 23:35 ]
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I put it down to officials not wanting to cause panic which would hamper the emergency services.
But,
I would be scared to speculate anymore.Are we turning into a Big Brother State?
you sir are a buffoon
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[ This Message was edited by: chop983 on 2005-07-14 07:57 ]
I'm sorry but thats just absurd. You have spent WAY too long watching the X Files and reading geeky reports about conspiracy theories.
"Tony Blair commissioned the bombing " - That really is pretty sick and sooo stupid. At the G8 summit most of the talk was money for Africa.
And yes they did say power surges at first as when the first bomb went off in the Tube who knew instantly it was a bomb ? They probably said that as they didnt want mass panic while evacuating.
I think identity cards are a great idea, thought that before and still think that now.
For you to think Tony Blair commissioned it, jesus thats very sick and one of the worst posts ever at this forum. Totally stupid
Homes will be lost.
Long term jobs will be lost .
Terrorist magnet.
Too expensive.
It'll only get dirty after a while.
Little babies will start crying when it gets noisy.
Should have given it to the pesky frogs. (Keep their little minds preoccupied for a while)
I'm with the Bognor guy though.
Theres better ways to spend out HARD earned money.
I was slagging off Blair Left< >Right and >Centre< years before this attack and due to the dutifully respectful way he has handled it, I have held my tongue about his pathetic ways for a week.
Now I feel I can open up a little on him.
This whole war on terrorism is bullshit from start to finish.
As if by invading Iraq and Afganistan, using terror tactics (eg. shock and awe, SICK weapons such as the deceptively named daisy cutter, torture and repression) you will defeat terror.
Two wrongs dont make a right.
In a few weeks when the dust settles, focus will be back on this hugely unpopular war.
What next Tony, or should we just ask that moron George?
We have been duped. Again.
Then again ole Tony cant win. When they had the test runs of gas/bomb attacks in London last year people were saying what a waste of money that was and it could have been better spent on something else, now you look back thinking it was well worth spending that money.
I do think these nutters would strike whether we invaded Iraq or not though but who knows.
According to MatGubbins Tony Blair did all this himself anyway so lets blame him for everything bad in the world as surely he did it.
Obviously now looking back its made the situation no better if not worse but who would have thought that 3 or 4 years ago.
The only 'benefit' from the invasion is that i hope now US/UK stop invading countries to 'help out' and should just keep to their own problems in their own countries.
At the end of the day the US originally trained and armed many of these muslims when they were fighting the soviets in Checnya (sp). Total mess the whole situation and i cant believe we voted Tony back in
We cant do that here.
Another point, next time you see militants, insurgents, rebels or whatever anywhere in the world just take a look at their weapons.
Made in USA, made in Russia or made in China.
Stopping the arms trade is a good thing as countries in dissarry with dictators generally find it very difficult to manufacture serious arms.
Dont we still make a killing from the arms trade.
(See Mark Thomas Project for inspiration)
[ This Message was edited by: JimDiGrizLovesAngelina on 2005-07-15 16:21 ]