Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Unlike many on here..I diverged away from IT/Computers in the mid 90s(which is why I have no idea what your babbling on about half the time!). Yes..I started out going down that road..but that's history. I could have had a life planned out...but that's never been my style :)
I was a tenager going to my early 20s, hence couldn't say anything bad about the 90s :) We moved across the world to start a new life in Australia. I was a nerdy know it all high school student then turned into not such a great uni student, this would be my only regret, I was at uni doing my undergrad but I was having a brilliant time since I came out of my shell. Melbourne had a unique underground electronic music scene at the time :)
For me the 90s were an era of low self estime. For me the year 2000 was the game changer that put me where I am now.It's like someone flipped a switch. I learned how to handle women, because a good socialized and went off to uni.
If I had developed these social skills earlier, the 90s would have been a blast for me.
When I look back at the 90s I cant help thinking how shallow it all was, shallower than the 80s. I think it was the 90s when cyber chic as portrayed on film and tv was green screens with flying one's and zeros, tapady tap tap tap "I'm in" and very cringe worthy. Even the x-files makes me wince.
If I had developed these social skills earlier, the 90s would have been a blast for me.
It was opposite for me. I started at the top..and I worked my down. ...but then up again! By about 1992...I had completely lost the plot. There was nothing I couldn't do..then there was nothing I could do. Come about 1999...life exploded...so..the 90s were were wasted...I remember the 90s for being the poverty stricken time where a plate of chips was your xmas dinner...and I never spoke to anyone for months on end. Damn melancholy thread...nuff of that.
If I had developed these social skills earlier, the 90s would have been a blast for me.
It was opposite for me. I started at the top..and I worked my down. ...but then up again! By about 1992...I had completely lost the plot. There was nothing I couldn't do..then there was nothing I could do. Come about 1999...life exploded...so..the 90s were were wasted...I remember the 90s for being the poverty stricken time where a plate of chips was your xmas dinner...and I never spoke to anyone for months on end. Damn melancholy thread...nuff of that.
In the 90's as a kid, I remember several years of living off Asda Farmstores range, and not having many luxuries, and I remember going round to my council estate friend's houses and they always had all the latest games consoles and loads of games! Bastards.
But yeah, that's life, a series of ups-and-downs. You can build up a load of confidence, then have it all taken away from you in a very short moment of time; I felt worthless most of this year with unemployment, and it's easy to feel like a worthless piece of ****, but actually it can happen to anyone, regardless of how clever, or friendly, or sociable you are.
@scottie_uk, I also have this same feeling of misspent youth, because I lacked confidence and was never very popular, but then a lot of my friends at school ended up getting into drugs and getting **** up! So actually, maybe being unpopular can be a good thing? I've learnt to embrace my awkwardness over the years, and to be more comfortable with who I am. I am the sort of person that enjoys time to themselves, and I just find that most people annoy the **** out of me.
My only Speccy game (so far): a simple snake clone
90s was a knee jerk reaction to the 80s, drab color and drab music (as least for the first half). However, I do appreciate some good electronic music was made throughout the 90s. Early to mid 90s MOR pop was deliberately under-produced and just dry. No more glossy shiny mixes, just a dry sound that now most people could do on a laptop and DAW from about 1999.
The 90s started great for me. I'd just graduated and got really lucky in my first job as a programmer for a successful, laid-back company which recruited many graddies over the following years. Pay was good and the youthful workforce made for a great working and social environment. We used to say it was just like being at Uni - messing about on computers all day and drinking all night - except we were getting paid for it!
I could afford to buy nice cars and electronics, go on holidays and genuinely made more good friends than I even did at Uni. I also got to travel with work - to Silicon Valley or Orlando at least once a year, and the company's expenses policy was very liberal! Great times and I've never worked for a company like it since.
In the 2nd half of the 90s I got engaged and settled down a bit. And after 10 years with that company I reluctantly left when we decided to move back to her home of Ireland to get married. I had no more family left in Blighty (they'd moved back to Canada where I had been born) and a lot of my friends and colleagues had either moved on or settled down. The end of an era....
When did the 90s vibe begin? I've always believed the seeds of the 80s sound were sewn in about 1977, was about the 90s? In 1988 we were still listening highly polished studio productions and on the flip side we has Stock Aken and Waterman. When were the seeds of change sewn? I know for Dance music it was 1987 with house and acid hitting the main stream, what about for other genre's of music and fashion in general?
90s was just an extended 80s, but gradually losing its grip on inventiveness and ingenuity.
I spent the whole time just as I did in the 80s, playing Speccy games. Then there were Carboot sales of course, and the Amiga, then PSX. Towards the tail end of it I did a bit of clubbing, but the Speccy was still waiting up for me every night, so I packed it in and played Zenobi Adventures in the small hours instead.
But Pearl Jam released VS, Nirvana released In Utero and Smashing Pumpkins released Siamese Dream.
:)
After all these years I decided that Bleach is probably my fave Nirvana album, with in Utero in second place, although back in 93' it'd have been nevermind with In Utero in second place. Nowadays for as much as I loved Nevermind back then it's probably my least fave Nirvana album now, I even like Incesticide more than it, as it's just been raped (Oh the irony).
As for VS, it's alright, but Ten is better, and Siamese dream is the only Pumpkins album I half like, the rest have about 3 tunes I can scrape a like between them on, before I start thinking about smashing Billy Corgan's Pumpkin with a baseball bat. He's one of the biggest tossers in "alternative" music there ever was.....Plus he sold out big time and did a Christmas song a few years back....Didn't surprise me really. Just made me think he was an even bigger pretentious knobhead than I always thought he was.
93' is possibly one of my fave years though, a lot of good if not slightly confused and drug addled memories back then :))
Don't get me started on how **** 80's production is. The 90's was slightly better though.
There's crap production in every decade. You cant say a blanket expression like that without some degree of sarcasm.
Me sarcastic? :))
I guess production comes down to the technology you have and the experience of the producer. These days you just feed it into a computer and that's it. You couldn't that 30 years ago, everything was done manually.
Actually 1960's production was very good, despite limited technology. That decade saw the introduction of ADT, compression techniques, phasing, limiters, multi speed taping and 16 track recording.
Back then people experimented with things like microphone placement, these days no one bothers anymore.
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Well...come to think of it..there is no such thing as a life planned out.
Reality bytes.
Go find another wife!
If I had developed these social skills earlier, the 90s would have been a blast for me.
When I look back at the 90s I cant help thinking how shallow it all was, shallower than the 80s. I think it was the 90s when cyber chic as portrayed on film and tv was green screens with flying one's and zeros, tapady tap tap tap "I'm in" and very cringe worthy. Even the x-files makes me wince.
It was opposite for me. I started at the top..and I worked my down. ...but then up again! By about 1992...I had completely lost the plot. There was nothing I couldn't do..then there was nothing I could do. Come about 1999...life exploded...so..the 90s were were wasted...I remember the 90s for being the poverty stricken time where a plate of chips was your xmas dinner...and I never spoke to anyone for months on end. Damn melancholy thread...nuff of that.
In the 90's as a kid, I remember several years of living off Asda Farmstores range, and not having many luxuries, and I remember going round to my council estate friend's houses and they always had all the latest games consoles and loads of games! Bastards.
But yeah, that's life, a series of ups-and-downs. You can build up a load of confidence, then have it all taken away from you in a very short moment of time; I felt worthless most of this year with unemployment, and it's easy to feel like a worthless piece of ****, but actually it can happen to anyone, regardless of how clever, or friendly, or sociable you are.
@scottie_uk, I also have this same feeling of misspent youth, because I lacked confidence and was never very popular, but then a lot of my friends at school ended up getting into drugs and getting **** up! So actually, maybe being unpopular can be a good thing? I've learnt to embrace my awkwardness over the years, and to be more comfortable with who I am. I am the sort of person that enjoys time to themselves, and I just find that most people annoy the **** out of me.
It did, by a long way.
I could afford to buy nice cars and electronics, go on holidays and genuinely made more good friends than I even did at Uni. I also got to travel with work - to Silicon Valley or Orlando at least once a year, and the company's expenses policy was very liberal! Great times and I've never worked for a company like it since.
In the 2nd half of the 90s I got engaged and settled down a bit. And after 10 years with that company I reluctantly left when we decided to move back to her home of Ireland to get married. I had no more family left in Blighty (they'd moved back to Canada where I had been born) and a lot of my friends and colleagues had either moved on or settled down. The end of an era....
I spent the whole time just as I did in the 80s, playing Speccy games. Then there were Carboot sales of course, and the Amiga, then PSX. Towards the tail end of it I did a bit of clubbing, but the Speccy was still waiting up for me every night, so I packed it in and played Zenobi Adventures in the small hours instead.
Absolutely. There were some good songs in the 80s but most of it was hidden behind that horrible 80s production.
But Pearl Jam released VS, Nirvana released In Utero and Smashing Pumpkins released Siamese Dream.
:)
Oh, and Maiden released 2 live albums that year.
There was plenty of awful production in the 90s too. Particularly with the lo-fi Massive Attack wannabes
There's crap production in every decade. You cant say a blanket expression like that without some degree of sarcasm.
After all these years I decided that Bleach is probably my fave Nirvana album, with in Utero in second place, although back in 93' it'd have been nevermind with In Utero in second place. Nowadays for as much as I loved Nevermind back then it's probably my least fave Nirvana album now, I even like Incesticide more than it, as it's just been raped (Oh the irony).
As for VS, it's alright, but Ten is better, and Siamese dream is the only Pumpkins album I half like, the rest have about 3 tunes I can scrape a like between them on, before I start thinking about smashing Billy Corgan's Pumpkin with a baseball bat. He's one of the biggest tossers in "alternative" music there ever was.....Plus he sold out big time and did a Christmas song a few years back....Didn't surprise me really. Just made me think he was an even bigger pretentious knobhead than I always thought he was.
93' is possibly one of my fave years though, a lot of good if not slightly confused and drug addled memories back then :))
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/dec/18/billy-corgan-smashing-pumpkins-interview
Me sarcastic? :))
I guess production comes down to the technology you have and the experience of the producer. These days you just feed it into a computer and that's it. You couldn't that 30 years ago, everything was done manually.
https://mb.boardhost.com/BikerMike/index.html?1593001131
Back then people experimented with things like microphone placement, these days no one bothers anymore.