What is it exactly about that Spectrum that you like so much?

edited May 2006 in Games
I'm sure that most people here will agree that there's something very special about the Speccy, thats why we visit WOS afterall... But what why has it got a place in your heart?

For a lot of people here it's probably because it's their first system. For me it was the second system I owned (I had my Atari 2600 a few years before mine) and yet it's still the system I have most fond memories of. Is it because it was the underdog? Is it because of the games? Is it because of it's unique graphics set up? I really don't know.

What is it exactly about that Spectrum that you like so much?
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  • edited May 2006
    I stumbled on the speccy by accident, at a boot sale, but fell in love immediately, it's so accessable, and the community is great. It's easier to program than the beeb (the retro computer I remember) and there is much more support available on-line
    :)
  • edited May 2006
    Swainy wrote:
    For me it was the second system I owned (I had my Atari 2600 a few years before mine)

    same situation here, got a 2600 in 1984, speccy in 1986, then amiga in 1988. i didn't actually ditch the speccy until around 1992 though, when i sold it to put some cash towards a megadrive.

    the amiga was obviously a "better" machine than the speccy, but the speccy was still fun to play around on. also, the games were cheep on the speccy, so i could actually afford to buy them with my pocket money back then.

    if i'd had a c64 instead of a speccy though, i'd be on c64world.com now or whatever they have :razz: i'm not sure why i actually went for the speccy instead of the c64 back then. (edit: actually, i think it was cos my mates had speccies, not c64s ;)
  • edited May 2006
    It was best buy in 1983.
    It is very good for diverse hardware upgrades - self made.
    Good for learning about computers and programming.
    Some games are still 'playable' :D
  • TMRTMR
    edited May 2006
    Oh, this is an easy one; "the games". =-)
  • edited May 2006
    Everything!
  • edited May 2006
    Well it takes me back to a golden era, an exciting time when computers first really arrived for most of the mainstream.

    Nowadays i dont have so much time so i cant easily play some huge PC epic. I normally play Speccy games on a Pocket PC so i can have a quick blast now and then and come back to it later if i have some free time.

    Speccy games are quick and easy to play on the whole and its from a time when gameplay was king and not fancy graphics or huge soundtracks or cut scenes etc.
  • edited May 2006
    Lots of stuff....

    Had a grandstand Pongy type game system thing prior to the Speccy but I was mesmerised by things like Lunar Lander in the arcades and wanted to play it without putting 10ps into something. I always had an interest in technology so I used to pester for a home computer when they first came out (I think I liked the Ti-99 but my brother in law told my mum and dad to get a Speccy instead).

    The whole thing about the Speccy was great - watching it gradually get more popular, denoted by the very thin mags that were first on the scene getting thicker and better, the games, the arguments on the school bus with Oric and C64 owners, the games, frustration in learning to program it, frustration when Coke was spilt into it and it had to go to Speccy hospital, the games, Crash, swapping tapes, etc etc.

    Life didn't entirely revolve around the speccy but it wasn't far off ;) And the Speccy was always a good friend of mine during the early 80s.

    I can't really be arsed with Amiga emulators although I have played Indy 500 a few times on one. The Speccy still holds the fondest memories.
  • edited May 2006
    It was such an accessible machine, to code in mc or basic. No mucking around with different chips, what you saw was what you got.

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  • edited May 2006
    my first
    thousands of games and everybody had one
    easy to copy games :)
    easy to use / code......ish :P
    the shape, colour, size, feel of the buttons
    the price
    the smell :)
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  • edited May 2006
    Sitting for hours with my Dad doing the type ins. He would read and I would type. And then crossing your fingers and everything else hoping the program actually worked.

    Quality time see, you just can't beat it.
  • edited May 2006
    That's a toughie... A decent version of Chase HQ is a good start, and the fact that it has a pure RGB output, or so it seems, which leads to it's quirky colour pallette. And the thing it's good at... attribute clash for instance.

    But really, I'm a convert to the famous Speccy because of the generally good quality home brew software. The fact that people care enough to develop such good and original games when the technology is nearly 25 years old is amazing, especially as the Speccy lacks support hardware such as a graphics chip.

    Regards,

    Shaun.
  • edited May 2006
    A friend of my parent's built his own ZX81 from kit-form, which I just loved, and so when the ZX81 was "properly" released (pre-built) they brought me one... cue long hours typing-in games such as Golf & Chess, only for the 16K ram-pack to do it's infamous "wooble" and lose everything (I still have it, and it still works, and people wonder where the lower-case letters are...!)

    When the speccy came out they brought me one also, and I properly took to programming it and had the time of my life! So I love it because it was the first computer I really managed to program things for myself, and the games were so much more interesting than the Philips VideoPac system we had before (which was better in turn than the Binatone Pong system before that)

    And now, over 20 years later, I code PCs for a living, and speccys for fun, and I love it! (and my parent's are happy their investment paid off!)
  • edited May 2006
    the first thing was the box. it had pictures of the games that it contained on it. and i used to walk around in a dream like state waiting for christmas, and then walking around christmas day in a dream like state for boxing day so we could return it and get one that worked.

    is there any pics of the boxes on here?
  • edited May 2006
    For me it was the toughness of the games. They were a real challenge, and I only finished a handful. I re-bought a Spectrum a few years ago, thinking that with my improved gaming skill they'd be a doddle - no way!! Still rock hard as ever. Compared to modern games where you can finish some in literally hours, these rule the roost when it comes to a challenge.
  • edited May 2006
    For me it was the toughness of the games. They were a real challenge, and I only finished a handful. I re-bought a Spectrum a few years ago, thinking that with my improved gaming skill they'd be a doddle - no way!! Still rock hard as ever. Compared to modern games where you can finish some in literally hours, these rule the roost when it comes to a challenge.

    I agree with you! The spectrum games are really a challenge, and when you finish one you feel like If you had accomplished something.
    The only thing I dont agree is that now, for me after year playing some other platforms (like Super Nintendo, Play Station) the speccy games are easier, but not easy.

    Bye
  • edited May 2006
    Some games were very very tricky. I mean Knight Lore, Batman or Head over Heels, wouldnt ever be able to complete those. Might give them a go with a walkthrough though but back in the day hard as anything. Thats whats so good now though, seeing a video or rzx of someone completing them.

    I know a few people could easily complete Atic Atac but this was another one i never could. However the weird thing is back in the day i could complete Airwolf quite easily as i used to play that tons.

    At the end of the day practice makes perfect etc, Knight Lore / Batman / Head over Heels i did really want to complete but with so many different games to play i couldnt keep playing these so much i could complete them.

    Did complete The Fury a few weeks ago on an emulator, very boring final screen saying 'well done...' etc.
  • zx1zx1
    edited May 2006
    For me it was easy to get into. You could sit down and go straight into a game (can't do that now you have to configure, install etc). It was good for programming as well. Plus the games were cheap and cheerful and some are still playable today, 20 years on!
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  • edited May 2006
    It was my first computer. I was like an eight-year-old back then, or something.
    It was easy enough to program that i could do it after a couple of years.

    I always loved the type-ins, wading through them with my dad reading the commands and hex codes to me out loud. Some of them we never got to work. :-)
    I can particularly remember the Aliquid Simplex type-in. Anybody remember in which magazine that was published back then?
    They stopped putting type-ins into computer magazines during the GW-Basic time, early nineties (HCC Magazine had them, if anyone remembers that).
    Computing has never been the same afterwards.
  • edited May 2006
    The Spectrum wasn't quite my first computer, as I had a go with the ZX81 first. However, it did have a much longer active life for me, and I learned most of my programming skills on it. It also lasted about five years as my main games/programming computer and sticking around for the occasional blast for another five years after that. If you count the last 14 years of mostly using emulators, it's still going strong for me.

    As for what made it the killer games machine of its day, I'd say that there was a combination of factors. It had the basic capabilities of colour graphics and sound that set it apart from earlier machines - like the ZX81 - and came in at a much lower price than the BBC, Dragon 32, Ti99, etc. that were offering the same features. It also beat the two machines - The Commodore 64 and the Amstrad CPC series - that were going to be its main rivals in the years to come to the marketplace by a year or two, by which time it had become firmly entrenched with a core of programming talent and a large user base.

    Still, it wasn't just a case of being the earliest/cheapest colour computer as throughout the mid-80s the Spectrum continued to excel. I'd think the large amount of RAM - 48K in 1982 was huge and only a small chunk got taken away by system - did a lot to help. You could get much bigger games on a Spectrum than you could on a BBC or a Dragon, let alone a VIC20 or a ZX81. Also, the processor power to screen memory ratio was very favourable. Games tended to fly along on the Spectrum, and the only way that other computers could compete was by relying on the specialist tricks of their video hardware to do things like sprites and scrolling which tended to constrain games to particular formats that suited it. Just look at the number of great 3D games on the Spectrum as opposed to the C64, for instance.
  • edited May 2006
    Cihl wrote:
    It was my first computer. I was like an eight-year-old back then, or something.
    It was easy enough to program that i could do it after a couple of years.

    I always loved the type-ins, wading through them with my dad reading the commands and hex codes to me out loud. Some of them we never got to work. :-)
    I can particularly remember the Aliquid Simplex type-in. Anybody remember in which magazine that was published back then?
    They stopped putting type-ins into computer magazines during the GW-Basic time, early nineties (HCC Magazine had them, if anyone remembers that).
    Computing has never been the same afterwards.

    i could never be bothered with type in's, but my dad bought one from a car boot sale, for 5p or something and spent all night typing it in. He asked me for help, but i was a bad son and refused.

    i dont think he managed it.
  • edited May 2006
    First had one in 1990 when I was 5 years old. First thing I did
    was type in that pyramind/spider prog from the 48K+ manual.
    After that, I was hooked on the various games and loved
    farting around with BASIC.

    I was so gutted when my last speccy died around 95/96 but
    was overjoyed to come across emulation about 2001 and
    of course WoS a few months or so later.

    The speccy is a great computer even though I just use
    it emulator form and if it wasn't for this grand old computer
    I doubt I'd be so heavily in to games and such these days.
    But in short, I love the speccy because that's where it
    all started for me.
  • edited May 2006
    Yep like you when i discovered a Speccy emulator for the first time it was brilliant. Obviously not legal but i remember in an early PC magazine seeing a very small advert for a Speccy cd with all the games and an emulator to play them on. My folks at the time thought i was mad as i had spent a ton of money on this PC (66mhz - 1100 quid !) and then here i was playing Speccy games on it !

    Great nostalgia trip though after so many years away from the ole Speccy.
  • edited May 2006
    It's because I started out in the early 70's with a child's toy. Anybody remember the Logix Kosmos range of scientific toys? One of them was a computer - of sorts. Lots of small switches, linked on a push rod which when activated, simulated logic IC gates. It had (I think) ten of these push rods, each having (again, I think) 8 switches. Results were indicated at the top of the consul by light bulbs lighting up, depending on the switching. Programming was achieved by using wire links in exactly the same way as you'd use a breadboard. Somebody is bound to remember it....

    Had one of them, got bored very quickly, got a ZX81, then a RAMpack, then an Atari VCS2600 system, then my Spectrum. I've now got several Amigas, I've owned a C64 and an old C16, I even scrapped an old Commode +4 a month or so ago for it's RAM chips.

    None of them comes close to the satisfaction of using my Spectrums, be it a 48K or a +3. I don't know if it's a "retro" thing, I think it's more like like "It's a Spectrum", simple as that.
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  • edited May 2006
    In the early early days of the Spectrum i loved the games packaging, the arty drawing on the front cover of some huge dragon breathing fire or something and once you loaded it up even though it was a crappy UDG in your imagination it was this huge dragon !

    Over time i got fed up with the front covers of games which didnt have screenshots as often you were totally lied to and the older i got my imagination wasnt quite the same, specially when i had spent ages saving up 8 quid for a game only for it to be dire despite the advert looking so great.
  • edited May 2006
    Had a ZX81 and loved that so obviously wanted the next gen machine. As someone else said, Quality time was a big factor in its attraction too. The type ins, going around your mates on a sunday afternoon to try and finish Lords of Midnight, printing out your moms shopping list on the zx printer and your mom pretending she was hugely impressed with it.

    ....oh and not forgetting Sam Fox Strip Poker.
  • edited May 2006
    I played a lot of machines back then as well as enjoy many summer holidays half-spent in arcades. But when I look back two decades on, the best memories are of my time playing the Spectrum. It wasn't the first machine I got, nor the second. It wasn't technically the best either. So why the Spectrum?

    The Spectrum was unique because it was only major gaming platform in history that was not designed to play games. It was in about 1984 that a few people, by accident as much as by design, started making Spectrum games that turned its so-called weaknesses (neon-colour schemes, attribute problems, minimal sound) into strengths. One of the best examples was Jet Set Willy, set in a dark, creepy mansion with highly-detailed, surreal sprites. People are still trying to bottle what Matt Smith captured in that game. More than any other release, it defined the Spectrum. If this game had been made in C64 hi-colour mode with scrolling and SID music, it would not have worked. Ultimate tapped into the same power with their isometric games. And don't forget Avalon as well, an excellent arcade adventure. In fact, there are loads of examples from 1984 onwards. While every other machine up to that point was trying to bring the arcade into the home, the Spectrum's top drawer programmers were creating something else- a longer, slower, more atmospheric and (arguably) deeper gaming experience. This is what makes the Spectrum my all-time favourite machine.
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  • edited May 2006
    Well I never liked the speccy but I love it now! Really sums up the retro scene for me, looks good and the spectrum community is huge!

    good stuff
  • edited May 2006
    I suppose it was just the time of youth. The dawn of an age truly arrived and here we were caught up in it. It was just so new and it was easily the most accessible computer at that time in my opinion. Sometimes I think it was just that it simply existed in those days of youth, and thats all, but then and now it just seems so magical. Call me sad, but it was more just a computer. It was a friend. A useful get out clause for disaffected youth too, perhaps.

    Above all, it had the jazzy rainbow/spectrum logo on it. Heh.
    I stole it off a space ship.
  • edited May 2006
    The Speccy was the first computer that I ever had, way back in 1982/3 (I can't quite remember when I got it, but I was no older that 7 at the most). I remember hearing in the playground at the time that alot of my mates were getting one for Christmas. I don't remember asking for one, but I remember being chuffed to bit's that I got one and I could hold my head up with all my mates who were also getting one. I also remember not using it much once the initial fasination with it wore off. i think it was or 3 years before I reall started playing it, and even then it was because it was raing like a bastard outside and I couldn't go out and play. But once I had re-discovered it, I never looked back. I spent all the mone I could get on budget games (I didn't get pocket money each week as a kid, but I was never left wanting....if my parents could afford it, then I got it.). Sunday afternoons were my favorite time of the week, as I would goto my local(ish) market and get a new budget game (or a cheep full price game if I was flush...the stall that I got my games from sold the big releases at ?4.99 instead of ?7 or ?8.99. They were originals too, but they were in very short supply and you could wait for a couple of week for the big games (3 weeks for Renegade!)).

    The Speccy was and still is a great machine that I still play all the time (under emulation now though). It also still amazes me with what it is capable of (check out the Mortal Kombat demo or the pre-release of Doom, or the Wolfenstein demo that works with a mouse!!!)

    I will always look back at my Speccy gaming days with a great deal of pleasure 9and remember the frustrating times when the games refused to load :lol: ) :)
  • The fact that it had 64 written on the top, my favourite number !
    Every time I read that the oldest person in the world has died, I have to do a quick check to see it isn't ME..........
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