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PC knackered, help needed?

mel the bellmel the bell
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So, with an hour of my show yesterday afternoon, mi main pc cut out without warning, as though there was a powercut but i dont think there was, and its dead. Theres light on the green switch on the back so theres some power but when you press the on button, nothing, at first theres a flash of a green light for a millisecond next to the floppy drive, apart from that nothing, no whirrs, no beeps...zilch

so its either PSU or motherboard? how do i test them, without taking out and putting into another machine? like i said there is power so cant be the PSU? unless the power outputs dropped? which leaves the motherboard?
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  • polomintpolomint
    No idea, but I would strip the pc, remove everything you can (drives/memory/cards) then put them back, maybe a reseat is all that is needed. I've found that when I've had an issue like that then reseating memory has helped me, ymmv. :)
    So far, so meh :)
  • mel the bellmel the bell
    yeah i was thinking about that, gotta take out the dvd drive anyway to put back in this machine im using, which i took it out of to put in that one lol.

    Its a massive graphics card too, XFX?

    tbh it was mi dads pc (r.i.p dad) so dont have much info on it or the bits.

    just took the sides off and plugged it in, theres a small green light on in the corner of the motherboard and graphics card, think its on the motherboard (just right next to where it says "turbo key")

    im thinking the PSU is ok as im getting little green lights all over, just no overall working on the motherboard etc?
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  • polomintpolomint
    Woody has just mentioned in chat that the 12v line of the psu may have popped. Try taking things out first and then go from there. Fingers crossed...
    So far, so meh :)
  • polomintpolomint
    Come to think of it, considering it may be a juicy gfx card, that may be the case
    So far, so meh :)
  • mel the bellmel the bell
    taken out the 2 dvd drives and still nothing, unplugged the lead to the 2 side panel fans, and nothing.

    although one of the dvd drives has built in usb socket, i can only unplug that from the motherboard not physically remove from the machine as its stuck to the drive and mi dads put other wires inside the 2 wires for that doh lol
    Professional Mel-the-Bell Simulator................"So realistic, I found myself reaching for the Kleenex King-Size!" - Richard Darling
  • andrewvanbeckandrewvanbeck
    It's not a Dell is it?
    Anyway, might be worth trying to short the powerup button, if you look for the long connector to the motherboard from the PSU, you should have a green wire, which can be shorted to ground to force a start up.
    Really though, I think it might be a motherboard issue - check for bloated capacitors, but usually this means buying a new MB.
  • mel the bellmel the bell
    OOH just took the graphics card out (Geforce 9600 GSO) and its fired up, little temp screen on the front lit up, little green light on the front lit up, fan on the back whirring, and the 4 little blue lights around it lit up.

    so PSU is either faulty as woody said? or the graphics cards knacked?
    Professional Mel-the-Bell Simulator................"So realistic, I found myself reaching for the Kleenex King-Size!" - Richard Darling
  • jonesypeterjonesypeter
    Has the motherboard got built in graphics? If so plug the monitor unto that port.
  • mel the bellmel the bell
    jonesypeter wrote: »
    Has the motherboard got built in graphics? If so plug the monitor unto that port.

    one way to find out lol, just plugging the dvd drives, fans back in, gonna leave the graphic card out and plug a monitor in

    Professional Mel-the-Bell Simulator................"So realistic, I found myself reaching for the Kleenex King-Size!" - Richard Darling
  • mel the bellmel the bell
    right its fired up with everything bar the graphics card in
    Professional Mel-the-Bell Simulator................"So realistic, I found myself reaching for the Kleenex King-Size!" - Richard Darling
  • mel the bellmel the bell
    edited May 2017
    Monitors plugged in to the on board, i can see it booting up correctly, everything else is in apart from the GeForce card

    ive cleaned all the gunk out of the onboard fan on the geforce card...and everything else i can, next step plug that back in see what happens?
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  • polomintpolomint
    So either the power line to the card is dead, or the gfx card is dead, :/
    So far, so meh :)
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  • mel the bellmel the bell
    edited May 2017
    polomint wrote: »
    So either the power line to the card is dead, or the gfx card is dead, :/
    the powerline to it is a massive thick yellow and black corded thing.

    right, plugged the graphics card back in and...............dead lol, so unplugged the cable but left it in situ and it fires up again, theres even a red light on the graphics card that shines everything red, that worked but no power cable plugged in Oo
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  • mel the bellmel the bell
    right plugged it back in in position and plugged all 3 external drives i use in one at a time, and its all working fine, also adjusted the resolution from stupidly large graphics LOL
    Professional Mel-the-Bell Simulator................"So realistic, I found myself reaching for the Kleenex King-Size!" - Richard Darling
  • grey keygrey key
    I thought this thread was about a tired Police Constable.

    Probably all that shite music you play on it !





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  • grey keygrey key
    Someone was saying that his computer was fried by a lightning flash last night !
    Every time I read that the oldest person in the world has died, I have to do a quick check to see it isn't ME..........
  • mel the bellmel the bell
    no lightening here at all
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  • MatGubbinsMatGubbins
    BA computers go down.... Mel's computer goes down...
    Is Mel running BA system on the side? (couple of quid a month, cash in hand...)
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  • mel the bellmel the bell
    MatGubbins wrote: »
    BA computers go down.... Mel's computer goes down...
    Is Mel running BA system on the side? (couple of quid a month, cash in hand...)
    and punktorrents is now down

    seems everythings going down lately, bastid trump and the Russians
    Professional Mel-the-Bell Simulator................"So realistic, I found myself reaching for the Kleenex King-Size!" - Richard Darling
  • mel the bellmel the bell
    would just plugging the cable into the graphic card show anything? or does it need to be plugged into the pci socket as well, just thought, it might show if theres a working cable, but wont stop the pc booting up completely?
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  • mik3d3nchmik3d3nch
    " if it dont go, erl it"
    " if it still dont go 'it it wiv an 'ammer!"
    "an' if it still wont go its broke!"


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  • mel the bellmel the bell
    a mate just said becareful, it could be the PSU frying otherstuff and just not quite done the motherboard yet

    how would you know? and could it?
    Professional Mel-the-Bell Simulator................"So realistic, I found myself reaching for the Kleenex King-Size!" - Richard Darling
  • mik3d3nchmik3d3nch
    Got a voltmeter? Test the output from the PSU.
    If you're lucky it may only be a bad component on the m/b, look for signs of damage particularly can capacitors or the little flat round orange/brown type they bulge usually if bad but its not something to do if you've no experience with electronics. A mate who know this stuff should be able to run diagnostics on the card for you otherwise it looks like time to spend money..


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  • mel the bellmel the bell
    mik3d3nch wrote: »
    Got a voltmeter? Test the output from the PSU.
    If you're lucky it may only be a bad component on the m/b, look for signs of damage particularly can capacitors or the little flat round orange/brown type they bulge usually if bad but its not something to do if you've no experience with electronics. A mate who know this stuff should be able to run diagnostics on the card for you otherwise it looks like time to spend money..
    nope, dont do electronics lol, wouldnt know where to touch
    Professional Mel-the-Bell Simulator................"So realistic, I found myself reaching for the Kleenex King-Size!" - Richard Darling
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