Recreated ZX Spectrum Release date?!?

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  • edited July 2017
    Is the offer really over? Here is a link:-
    https://milled.com/game/limited-time-deals-including-the-sinclair-zx-spectrum-for-only-29-99-Jrm9-JxSde1SDere

    I went back to the earlier link (see above) and it still seems to be available . But is it really?
    Post edited by harriusherbartio on
  • Is it worth £29.99.?

    And how do you get it working with Fuse?
  • Is it worth £29.99.?

    And how do you get it working with Fuse?

    As discussed earlier in this thread, this version works. You just select the keyboard in one of the menus:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_2W9q0zVYtdY2dVQkRMSXVQYkk/view
  • And if you are fan of Amazon, it is there again at 35..
  • Klepto wrote: »
    Is it worth £29.99.?

    And how do you get it working with Fuse?

    As discussed earlier in this thread, this version works. You just select the keyboard in one of the menus:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_2W9q0zVYtdY2dVQkRMSXVQYkk/view

    Hi. You can find more recent releases for Fuse-SDL-WIN at: http://goo.gl/3bZJSZ
    Any Fuse release supports the Recreated (an option for you to check first) though the SDL allows for full screen and a cool retro user interface.
  • edited July 2017
    Thanks Hikoki

    And for the bit about the Google menu options for it

    All the time and effort went into getting Norton not to remove Fuse . 40 mins later I seem to have achieved that .. Some time ago Norton did accept Spectaculator and stopped trying to remove it but I cannot remember whether anything I did had anything to do with it . With Norton you just have to hope that it eventually stops trying to remove stuff

    I run Windows 7 64 bit and will have to see how it goes when the Recreated unit arrives in the post . I understand that you can use it wirelessly or with a USB to PC cable charging up rechargeable batteries . So , for me , it becomes like an alternative to the DK USB keyboard I made up with a ZX81 USB PCB . That took quite a lot of effort to do and cost more money ..

    So what tweaks have been made to Fuse? Have the shifted key variations been accommodated?

    But this is not the only way to go with it . One of the reviewer commented ;" At the reduced £30 I'm thinking- slap in a PI zero, splice power from the 5v and extrude a hole for the HDMI . At that price ,it is better than the horrible Vega ot the odd looking Next."

    So that is beginning to sound a bit like and endorsement . And this guy sounds like he knows what he is doing and is bringing expertise to the table. And it shows that there is more than one way of playing it!
    Post edited by harriusherbartio on
  • Using Fuse and the Recreated Spectrum is exactly like using a real ZX Spectrum.
    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
  • edited July 2017
    Reply to rich_chandler

    Thanks for that but did I see a red block bottom RHS? So using it is the same but the appearance is a little bit different .
    I wonder what Spectaculator would make it it? (probably shift key "minor" incompatible)
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  • edited July 2017
    Hi Harrius. I think Dunny wanted to write a baremetal version of Zxpin for the OrangePi Lite board which costs around 10$ and has got wifi, hdmi output and mic input. This would be a nice board to fit inside a Mitic case. You could have a dual os system: besides the fast loading emulator, one linux distro prepared with all sort of Spectrum related software. There could be key mats for coding in Python which is taught in schools and other flavours of modern Basic.
    As the Recreated and the cheapo board are wireless, do yo think they could be used to stream video over the ether?
    Post edited by hikoki on
  • edited July 2017
    Hi Hikoki

    It is undoubtedly true that what we have here , for the next few hours at least , is a reasonably priced , flexible resource that a few people will be able to grab if they act quickly .A few talented people will be able to exploit this flexibility which includes:- 1) different operating system choice 2) wireless or cable 3) the possibility of modding it with new hardware inside and maybe some other things I have not thought of..

    What is harder to get is a range of simple plans with options that are all equally understandable . So , skill level ,I suspect , will impact on the choices that people will make . Mind you I do have a few more days , before it arrives , to quickly upgrade my skill level !

    Yes and some ether would do nicely
    Post edited by harriusherbartio on
  • edited July 2017
    The complexity of under performance.

    Could the performance of the Recreated Spectrum be described as "sub optimal"? And how could this happen to such ,an arguably , sophisticated bit of kit? And did the " over complexity" of the whole thing have a bearing on the final result ? Some main points of the over complexity are :-

    1) The licensing of the games (arguably very complicated to carry out successfully)
    2) Old tech mixed with new tech . Different skills sets , interests and hobbies are relevant here
    3) Team spirit needed for crowd funding success? Crowd funding can be controversial but some projects like the ZX-Uno , with a good team spirit succeeded . So is "good team" spirit very useful for crowd funding success?

    OK these are only some of the arguments that can be made .


    And I am informed that time limited "final offers" like this are often at the discretion of the seller. (Does this mean it could go on for weeks at this price?) And is it an OK deal at this price ? I think so but maybe "too much complexity" has hidden the answer from us!
    Post edited by harriusherbartio on
  • Do you know if this can be used for the ZX-Uno and Next ? Thought for food!
  • edited July 2017
    Sorry .I have no info on that.Anyone else know?
    Post edited by harriusherbartio on
  • Another reply to Hikoki

    On another thread I mentioned the guy who jokingly warned people about buying non working Spectrums on Ebay: I think his tally was about 10 busted units! Are there any good things to be .got from doing this ? Well you are likely to end up with a lot of Speccy rubber key cases which will be just right for the Zx-Uno , (the special version just for Speccy keyboards !) So for people like this , at least , there is no need to use a Recreated Spectrum (much too good and expensive). So I do not think my (just arrived) Recreated Spectrum should be abused in this way . I will find a spare case from a busted 48k Speccy if I decide to get one of those "8bits4ever" special ZX-Unos!
  • edited July 2017
    Yes my Recreated Spectrum from Games has just arrived . I have no idea if it is locked or not . The box says it is made by Accuratus , Ceratech GU342QE .There is a Micro USB lead ,an instruction leaflet , a Spectrum sized mat , a beer mat sized mat , a stick on Keyboard Shortcuts label and a Consumer Notices and cautions slip referring to the type of batteries to be used and the output characteristics of the mains charger (DC5aMax).The box says batteries are required unless used as a wired keyboard . I like the wired keyboard idea. But do I still have to unlock it to use Fuse?. Maybe this is the next thing to do.

    Overall , for this money , I am pretty impressed with it all

    I know I have raved a bit about my DK USB keyboard as it has "proper keys" and can encase all kinds of Spectrum bits and pieces . But this is nice and small and sits easily where space is tight (so much better desk top "footprint wise" than the DK keyboard) as well as being very authentic and is probably a much cheaper way to do it.
    Post edited by harriusherbartio on
  • Yes my Recreated Spectrum from Games has just arrived . I have no idea if it is locked or not . The box says it is made by Accuratus , Ceratech GU342QE .There is a Micro USB lead ,an instruction leaflet , a Spectrum sized mat , a beer mat sized mat , a stick on Keyboard Shortcuts label and a Consumer Notices and cautions slip referring to the type of batteries to be used and the output characteristics of the mains charger (DC5aMax).The box says batteries are required unless used as a wired keyboard . I like the wired keyboard idea. But do I still have to unlock it to use Fuse?. Maybe this is the next thing to do.
    Just try it, most are shipped unlocked now.
    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
  • Got mine this morning (couldn't resist at £29.99). Runs well via Bluetooth with FUSE in game mode after selecting it in the FUSE menu. Got a mouse mat and coaster with it as well :-) Also the app on iOS works fine, quick blast on Chuckie Egg to test. Was never worth £99.99 but at 30 quid its not bad.
  • edited July 2017
    Harrius, I've just read on the ZX-Uno forums that Antonio Villena sells usb to ps/2 adapters. It may even work with wireless keyboards like the Recreated? (So no cable would be needed, just ether)
    By the way, I'm not sure but think Zesarux also supports the Recreated.
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  • edited July 2017
    Reply to TomD

    You are a bit ahead oh me on this . Its good value I think they will be snapped up at this price .

    The Micro USB lead is a bit short . I will have to use one off my camera (I hope its the same spec!) . No it is different , I will have to "dig out" a longer micro USB lead. It it now fully "dug out" : of course it was in my Raspberry Pi box! (how could I forget?)!
    Post edited by harriusherbartio on
  • Hi Hikoki

    I was hoping I would be able to use my Dual Shock 3 USB joystick with it . What does Antonio's adaptor do ? Is it for a joystick? What does it adapt to what?
  • hikoki wrote: »
    Do you know if this can be used for the ZX-Uno and Next ? Thought for food!
    Looking at this tear down video you couldn't really use the keyboard with the old style connectors but I guess you could try and hook it up via usb but not really worth it, as other people say just buy a broken 48k off eBay.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=4fbytmBUdvM
  • edited July 2017
    This the addon for the Uno: http://www.zxuno.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1486
    You'll have to ask him to know well what it's for.
    Post edited by hikoki on
  • edited July 2017
    Ok Hikoki I will ask him later!


    Ok I have plugged it in to the USB port on my PC . The lead is switched to the ON position and the switch at the back of the Recreated USB keybaord is slid to ON..

    I got a RED light to flash twice and then go off !. The Red light is what is meant to happen , though it is meant to flash 3 times and mine only flashed twice (all flashing should be done correctly!). But . on screen I got a GOSUB to appear on the Fuse emulator . So it works I think (all I had to do was read the instructions). I will have to have a play and see what it can do

    My only (very small criticism ) so far is that the USB lead is too short for normal use (but that is a trifling concern)


    And it is clear I need to "mug up" on mini USB connectors differences on cameras are understandable but I have realized I have got other different types as well , One with a Mini B (6pin) is clearly not right for this either . Anyone know the correct spec for this one ? I think everyone assumes they are all the same
    Post edited by harriusherbartio on
  • edited July 2017
    Ok Hikoki I will ask him later!


    Ok I have plugged it in to the USB port on my PC . The lead is switched to the ON position and the switch at the back of the Recreated USB keybaord is slid to ON..

    I got a RED light to flash twice and then go off !. The Red light is what is meant to happen , though it is meant to flash 3 times and mine only flashed twice (all flashing should be done correctly!). But . on screen I got a GOSUB to appear on the Fuse emulator . So it works I think (all I had to do was read the instructions). I will have to have a play and see what it can do

    My only (very small criticism ) so far is that the USB lead is too short for normal use (but that is a trifling concern)


    And it is clear I need to "mug up" on mini USB connectors differences on cameras are understandable but I have realized I have got other different types as well , One with a Mini B (6pin) is clearly not right for this either . Anyone know the correct spec for this one ? I think everyone assumes they are all the same

    It's a micro usb connector same one used on a lot of phones, Raspberry Pi, Xbox/PS4 controllers etc... You can buy these cheap at pound shop or longer ones online ebay.co.uk/itm/3m-USB-2-0-A-To-MICRO-B-Cable-Data-and-Charging-Lead-/400756974800?epid=1042446557&hash=item5d4efa24d0:g:jScAAOSwurZZJ~Ht

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    Post edited by TomD on
  • Yes thanks for the info: good pic That definitely the right one There are other (wrong uns for this application anyway) that are also out there and , at first , I found a "wrong un" without realizing the difference. Luckily I noticed the difference so all was well
  • Results so far

    I have gone back to using the supplied short lead . It seems to be a bit "lead specific" and does not work the same with my other (USB socket compatible) longer lead with an ON/OFF switch in the middle of the lead. I did not get any results with this lead switched to ON

    Using FUSE :- On the PC keyboard : ESC key controls it . F4 gets the option menu with the Recreated Spectrum selectable . When this is selected the keyboard responds but not necessarliy with the normal results ( but hey at least I am getting something!)

    The RED led on off switch seems to flash even when connected up in but in the OFF position


  • A quick thought about the alternative DK 'Tronics keyboard with a ZX81 USB PCB in it used with Spectaculator .

    Well one I had done all the work setting the DK USB keyboard up (about a year ago) , it did seem to be "easier" to use compared to this . This one seems to have lots of variable uses , but appears to be "harder to get into" . I have not got to the bottom of the cable issue (and why the one supplied was so short) but clearly this keyboard requires a bit more "tech savvyness" than my DK which is more like "plug and playable" when used with Spectaculator. But if I put the effort in I am hopeful I will get results with this one as well. But they are quite different and here are being used with different emulators ...
  • edited July 2017
    I think I made the mistake of thinking I did not need the App because I was using FUSE . Back to square 1.

    Yes the thing I am unclear about it whether it needs the app when it is USB cabled up to a PC and using FUSE. Does it need Fuse and the App?

    Off the web I got this :" It requires a companion app to function as a Spectrum "

    But does it need both THE APP and the Fuse Emulator or just Fuse to function as a Spectrum ? This is a puzzle!
    Post edited by harriusherbartio on
  • I think I made the mistake of thinking I did not need the App because I was using FUSE . Back to square 1.

    Yes the thing I am unclear about it whether it needs the app when it is USB cabled up to a PC and using FUSE. Does it need Fuse and the App?

    Off the web I got this :" It requires a companion app to function as a Spectrum "

    But does it need both THE APP and the Fuse Emulator or just Fuse to function as a Spectrum ? This is a puzzle!

    I never use the app. Just Fuse. There is no need for the app as far as I can tell.
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