The aliens who built Stonehenge must be laughing at how stupid we humans are

Some rapper is looking to crowd fund 'research' whereby he intends to prove that the Earth is flat. He intends to raise $200,000 (£150,000) to launch a satellite into space to prove that the Earth is indeed flat. Personally, I wouldn't have thought that $200,000 would be anywhere near enough for anyone to buy (or build) a satellite and then launch it, plus can you actually have a satellite (in it's strictest sense) if the Earth really is flat? I mean, a satellite orbits the Earth since the world is spherical, if the Earth is coin shaped then it's gravity* wouldn't cause anything to orbit, I'd have thought.



* Believe it or not, many flat-Earthers think gravity doesn't exist, and say that what we call gravity is actually the effect we feel because the Earth is moving constantly 'upwards'. Some even believe that the Earth is hollow, and aliens or intelligent non-humans live there. And no, I'm not making any of this up.

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  • edited September 2017
    Indeed on a flat earth a satellite or rocket would never be able to work or go into orbit.

    Instead of gravity flat earthers believe in air density, which explains why balloons float up and we go down.

    https://manoa.hawaii.edu/exploringourfluidearth/sites/default/files/M1U2-Fig2-04-Comparing_Density2.png

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-CDkJuo_LYs/maxresdefault.jpg

    You cant launch a rocket to any decent height, the air gets thinner the higher you get.

    The rockets you see launched start tipping over very quickly because the fins are not able to stabilise it when the air is thin.

    It is not the rocket going around the curve of the earth :)

    No one has done a launch into orbit and recorded the whole thing in one take.

    In the movie '2001' they had a pen floating in zero-g which someone actually caught, so imagine what is possible today.

    Post edited by slenkar on
  • erm whats stonehenge and aliens got to do with the rapper and flat earth nutters?
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  • I'm surprised a rapper would even be into that sh*t, shouldn't he stick to being stupid and ignorant on wax yo?
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  • I'm surprised a rapper would even be into that sh*t, shouldn't he stick to being stupid and ignorant on wax yo?
    well hes only got $650 so far so he better sell a few more albums or nothing will be sent into the big blue yonder
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  • edited September 2017
    erm whats stonehenge and aliens got to do with the rapper and flat earth nutters?

    The story is that a real-life rapper, who is apparently convinced that the world really is flat, is trying to raise money to prove that NASA and everyone involved with anything involving high altitudes (so airline companies, people who use and monitor weather balloons, etc) are lying to public. He honestly believes that the Earth is flat, like a coin or dinner plate, that there's no South Pole (and according to him, the North pole is in the centre of the plate shaped Earth), and the outer rim of the Earth (of the plate's edge, in effect) are patrolled by people who deliberately prevent anyone from exploring to find out the truth.

    Seriously, some people actually believe that, including this rapper (and it's not a publicity stunt, or at least not a new one, as he has a history of ranting on about the Earth being flat and it all being a conspiracy theory to delude the public for some reason).

    The "Stonehenge made by aliens" bit was just something I added as joke. Which obviously fell flat :-S Appropriately enough!
    Post edited by ewgf on
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  • Why doesn't he just use a spirit level?
  • never heard of this guy. just googled him. think his lyrics speak for themselves...

    https://genius.com/Bob-out-of-my-mind-lyrics

    lol
  • ewgf wrote: »
    erm whats stonehenge and aliens got to do with the rapper and flat earth nutters?

    The story is that a real-life rapper, who is apparently convinced that the world really is flat, is trying to raise money to prove that NASA and everyone involved with anything involving high altitudes (so airline companies, people who use and monitor weather balloons, etc) are lying to public. He honestly believes that the Earth is flat, like a coin or dinner plate, that there's no South Pole (and according to him, the North pole is in the centre of the plate shaped Earth), and the outer rim of the Earth (of the plate's edge, in effect) are patrolled by people who deliberately prevent anyone from exploring to find out the truth.

    Seriously, some people actually believe that, including this rapper (and it's not a publicity stunt, or at least not a new one, as he has a history of ranting on about the Earth being flat and it all being a conspiracy theory to delude the public for some reason).

    The "Stonehenge made by aliens" bit was just something I added as joke. Which obviously fell flat :-S Appropriately enough!
    i know the story, i read it earlier thats why i asked, theres no jokey stonehengey aliens **** in the story
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  • Presumably he'll launch it straight upwards, and when it promptly falls back down he'll proclaim that as proof that satellites are fake and don't exist.
  • edited September 2017
    “The Flat Earth Society has members all around the globe.”
    Post edited by redballoon on
  • def chris wrote: »
    never heard of this guy. just googled him. think his lyrics speak for themselves...

    https://genius.com/Bob-out-of-my-mind-lyrics

    lol

    Blimey, I thought they'd be bad, but that's unbelievable. And on a site with the word "genius" in it's URL, too.
  • Those are some of the best-worst lyrics ever :))

    See, man I'm so out there, I slap fives with ET.

    Perhaps his albums have ended up as landfill too?
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  • edited September 2017
    Okay, who's up for a bit of crowd funding? The objective is to raise a very large sum of money. Then we announce that the first person to find the edge of the world can win it as long as it is all documented by two independent respected UK based TV company reporters. Plus say two Wossers get to go on the trip to confirm that the recorded footage is a true representation of the events. Of course, the people who are convinced that the Earth is flat have to pay all costs and expenses until they find the edge of the world ;-)

    Should make for some fun entertainment...

    Mark



    Post edited by 1024MAK on
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  • so if the earth is flat then the sun and moon must be flat too and we are looking at the flat face all the time , like one side of a coin....so what the foook is that curved shadow over it and where does it come from....I'll give you clue , your standing on it.
    why can't we see across the sea for miles if the earth is flat (Horizon?)
    Where can you join up to be one of those edge of the world police?
    Has anyone , ANYONE got a video of the edge (do you know how many police you would need to patrol the edge)
    and Why is the earth round like a plate, why not another shape like an enneadeca?
  • Those are some of the best-worst lyrics ever :))

    See, man I'm so out there, I slap fives with ET.

    Perhaps his albums have ended up as landfill too?

    I would hope so 8-}
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  • If the Earth is flat, what stops the water from the oceans spilling over the side?
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  • 1024MAK wrote: »
    If the Earth is flat, what stops the water from the oceans spilling over the side?

    The NASA men (as that rapper said). Guess how many water was lost before NASA was founded...
    I was there, too
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  • 1024MAK wrote: »
    If the Earth is flat, what stops the water from the oceans spilling over the side?

    The NASA men (as that rapper said). Guess how many water was lost before NASA was founded...
    I was there, too
    An' you know what they said?
    Well, some of it was true!
  • Zup wrote: »
    1024MAK wrote: »
    If the Earth is flat, what stops the water from the oceans spilling over the side?

    The NASA men (as that rapper said). Guess how many water was lost before NASA was founded...

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  • Have a look at Flat Earth videos on YouTube. It's hilarious.
  • Giant. Cats at the edge lap up the water as it swishes off, that's what. Makes the tides, the lapping movements
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  • redballoon wrote: »
    “The Flat Earth Society has members all around the globe.”
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  • 1024MAK wrote: »
    If the Earth is flat, what stops the water from the oceans spilling over the side?
    The Antarctic ice wall of course, that's why the governments of the world guard it and don't allow civilians there. :)
  • ASH-II wrote: »
    so if the earth is flat then the sun and moon must be flat too and we are looking at the flat face all the time , like one side of a coin....so what the foook is that curved shadow over it and where does it come from....I'll give you clue , your standing on it.
    why can't we see across the sea for miles if the earth is flat (Horizon?)
    Where can you join up to be one of those edge of the world police?
    Has anyone , ANYONE got a video of the edge (do you know how many police you would need to patrol the edge)
    and Why is the earth round like a plate, why not another shape like an enneadeca?

    All good points, but if this rapper (or any other flat-Earther) was prepared to listen to reason, then he wouldn't be a flat-Earther.

    I have to say, though that this Flat Earth thing baffles me. I mean, believing that the Moon landing was faked, or that aliens crashed in Roswell and the US Army have the alien's corpses and their ships, or that the world is (mis)ruled by a tiny elite of super, hyper, mega rich and powerful people is one thing (there's no evidence to support any of this, and I don't believe any of them), but at least none of those go against accepted scientific principles (or at least not that the layman can understand). Plus if any of the three conspiracy theories I've mentioned do exist, then there is good reason why those involved would want to hide it from the rest of the world.

    But not only does the flat Earth 'theory' go against so many basic scientific laws (and common sense), who would actually stand to gain from fooling us into thinking that the Earth was spherical if it was really flat? Only people who make globes (I mean the wooden or metal globes, like they have in classrooms, that show where all the countries are in the world), as far as I can see, and I somehow doubt there's a world elite of globe makers who are desperately hiding the truth because they know that if we find out that the world is flat then they'll lose their lucrative $300 billion dollar a year globe making market.

    As a layman, the best argument I heard against the "The Moon landing was faked" argument was that so many technically skilled people around the world would have had to be complicit in it, since they were monitoring the craft/capsule and the signals being sent back. And most of the people would have had no real reason to lie, and since the USA, like any powerful nation, had lots of enemies, then if they had faked it then many countries would have shouted it from the rooftops.*

    And the same "So many people would have to be lying" argument applies to the flat Earth idea, only much more so, since the number of people who would know that the Earth was flat (if it was flat) would be increasing daily. Any decent navigator of a ship or plane would need to know so if he was travelling a decent distance, as the layout of two distant points (towns, countries, airports, etc) would be different depending on whether you're travelling over a globe or a flat Earth. Anyone in a plane who's travelling high enough and is observant. The military of any country, if they're even remotely competent (any decent military must have a first class grasp of accurate geography and the travel and attack routes to and from any major or important place in the world), and so on. And that's not even mentioning the scientists of any branch of science that depends on physics or physical attributes of the Earth.

    Still, astrology is genuinely a multi-billion dollar industry world-wide, so I suppose there's little reason to be too surprised when you find a group of people believe something that goes against all reason.



    * You can argue about the Van Allen belt, or NASA underestimating the levels of radiation in space, or whatever, but to most people that won't mean a lot. But we all know people, and we know that people talk, and the more people who are in on a secret, the more likely the secret is to get out (maybe exponentially so), so for me, the fact that so many people would have had to lie about the Moon landing (most of whom weren't even in America, but were scattered over the planet) is the best argument against the whole thing being faked.
  • edited September 2017
    guesser wrote: »
    1024MAK wrote: »
    If the Earth is flat, what stops the water from the oceans spilling over the side?
    The Antarctic ice wall of course, that's why the governments of the world guard it and don't allow civilians there. :)

    I thought it was due to Donald Trump building a wall around the outside of the world, to stop the Clangers getting in?

    Post edited by ewgf on
  • ewgf wrote: »
    All good points, but if this rapper (or any other flat-Earther) was prepared to listen to reason, then he wouldn't be a flat-Earther.

    I have to say, though that this Flat Earth thing baffles me.
    I really think you're expending waaaay too much thought and energy on this guy.
    I think my summary in the "Possibly true stories" thread is much more succinct:
    Gwyn wrote: »
    Twat 8-|

  • guesser wrote: »
    1024MAK wrote: »
    If the Earth is flat, what stops the water from the oceans spilling over the side?
    The Antarctic ice wall of course, that's why the governments of the world guard it and don't allow civilians there. :)
    Course it's kind of weird that you can't see the ice wall on the horizon, as you would if the Earth were actually flat....

  • AndyC wrote: »
    guesser wrote: »
    1024MAK wrote: »
    If the Earth is flat, what stops the water from the oceans spilling over the side?
    The Antarctic ice wall of course, that's why the governments of the world guard it and don't allow civilians there. :)
    Course it's kind of weird that you can't see the ice wall on the horizon, as you would if the Earth were actually flat....

    Something something atmospheric lensing, something something wizards did it.
  • Zup wrote: »
    1024MAK wrote: »
    If the Earth is flat, what stops the water from the oceans spilling over the side?

    The NASA men (as that rapper said). Guess how many water was lost before NASA was founded...

    Nah, we're in a sink ;)
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