Mrs. Booze liked it, I tried to watch it but couldn’t get into it. Think I dipped out before the first season was even done. She watched it to the bitter end. Dunno if she’s gonna watch the new one?
Watch it until season 4, which is arguably one of the greatest seasons of TV ever. Then assume it finishes at that point, which it really should have. Okay, season 5 is half decent, season 6 is awful, 7 ok-ish, 8 should be nuked from orbit and ignored that it ever existed.
Yes. The final season really is that bad. It's only worth watching to see how something so good could fall so badly.
I'll probably still watch the new season to see if they can get any kind of redemption.
Watch it until season 4, which is arguably one of the greatest seasons of TV ever. Then assume it finishes at that point, which it really should have. Okay, season 5 is half decent, season 6 is awful, 7 ok-ish, 8 should be nuked from orbit and ignored that it ever existed.
Yes. The final season really is that bad. It's only worth watching to see how something so good could fall so badly.
I'll probably still watch the new season to see if they can get any kind of redemption.
so one season is good? doesnt sound like a great tv show lol
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Watch it until season 4, which is arguably one of the greatest seasons of TV ever. Then assume it finishes at that point, which it really should have. Okay, season 5 is half decent, season 6 is awful, 7 ok-ish, 8 should be nuked from orbit and ignored that it ever existed.
Yes. The final season really is that bad. It's only worth watching to see how something so good could fall so badly.
I'll probably still watch the new season to see if they can get any kind of redemption.
That basically describes every American TV show that made money.....Starts good, stays good for a while, dies a horrible death becomes a zombie, and even then still manages to outstay it's welcome long beyond the point of being shot in the head, and left to rot on the side of the road....
The only US TV series that managed to ever be good from the get go, stay good, for a few more seasons then know how to end on a climax, and more importantly when to end, was Breaking Bad.....Better Call Saul seemed like it would be a nice prequel/tie in, to that show, but I gave up after waiting for it to get really good for 2 whole seasons....It never happened.
Was funny seeing the guy who played Trevor Phillips in GTAV turn up in one episode, and get pretty much shut down by Mike though :))
Watch it until season 4, which is arguably one of the greatest seasons of TV ever. Then assume it finishes at that point, which it really should have. Okay, season 5 is half decent, season 6 is awful, 7 ok-ish, 8 should be nuked from orbit and ignored that it ever existed.
Yes. The final season really is that bad. It's only worth watching to see how something so good could fall so badly.
I'll probably still watch the new season to see if they can get any kind of redemption.
so one season is good? doesnt sound like a great tv show lol
Nope - the first three seasons are good, very good even, but the fourth is an all time great.
Watch it until season 4, which is arguably one of the greatest seasons of TV ever. Then assume it finishes at that point, which it really should have. Okay, season 5 is half decent, season 6 is awful, 7 ok-ish, 8 should be nuked from orbit and ignored that it ever existed.
Yes. The final season really is that bad. It's only worth watching to see how something so good could fall so badly.
I'll probably still watch the new season to see if they can get any kind of redemption.
That basically describes every American TV show that made money.....Starts good, stays good for a while, dies a horrible death becomes a zombie, and even then still manages to outstay it's welcome long beyond the point of being shot in the head, and left to rot on the side of the road....
The only US TV series that managed to ever be good from the get go, stay good, for a few more seasons then know how to end on a climax, and more importantly when to end, was Breaking Bad.....Better Call Saul seemed like it would be a nice prequel/tie in, to that show, but I gave up after waiting for it to get really good for 2 whole seasons....It never happened.
Was funny seeing the guy who played Trevor Phillips in GTAV turn up in one episode, and get pretty much shut down by Mike though :))
Yeah, it is quite rare for a US show to stay top quality from start to finish - Breaking Bad was certainly the poster-boy for that. If you've never seen it, The Shield is another. Even the mighty The Wire had a relatively poor final season - compared to what came before it at least. The whole The Press scenario was just a bit dull.
One show that I watched over first lockdown, that I hadn't seen since it originally finished, was Fringe. I remember the last season or two getting a bit of a panning back in the day but a re-watch there was barely a bad episode the entire run (I skipped the musical episode. Musical? Shudder). Well worth watching again, particularly as knowing what's going to happen makes you appreciate the subtle things it did way more as you know what they portend. There's a series of three episodes in season 2 starting with "Peter" and ending with "White Tulip" that are a stunning set of episodes. How John Noble never received an Emmy, or was even nominated for one, is absolutely criminal.
I might give Better Call Saul another attempt as I've heard it does get really good but, like yourself, I gave up after a while as I was fed up of waiting for something to actually happen (Walking Dead another prime example of that).
For me, The Sopranos never dipped in quality from start to finish, nor did Six feet under but many other shows went downhill such as Ray Donovan.
I agree that The Wire had a poor final season and should have stopped after the second series.
For me, The Sopranos never dipped in quality from start to finish, nor did Six feet under but many other shows went downhill such as Ray Donovan.
I agree that The Wire had a poor final season and should have stopped after the second series.
The Sopranos - must get around to watching that at some point as I know it's supposed to be excellent. It's been on my NAS drive since about 2008 and I've not watched a single episode.
Yeah, I greatly enjoyed Sopranos (though the ending was a bit weird). I started watching it after reading favourable comments about it here on WOS. Breaking Bad was ace too (so many "wtf" moments) and I liked The Wire as well.
One show that isn't mentioned often but which I enjoyed greatly was Boardwalk Empire, set in the time of the prohibition. And Band of Brothers, which was actually shown on TV in the early 2000s but I somehow missed it, but watched it later. I should probably add that these days I watch all movies and shows in their original language (well, if that's English), not in the German dub.#
As for a bit off an oddball series, The Inbetweeners. I heard about it when my "Matt the Chav" comic edit had gone viral on reddit and someone dropped that series' name. "Bus w*nkers!" B-)
The inbetweeners was hilarious at the time it was running, and it aired here on BBC America which we still had at the time, so could watch it while it was still running. Rewatching some of it it's pretty cringe in places, but there's still some side splittingly funny stuff in it. The "Bus Wankers" bit being one of them, also "Bumder!" that scene had me crying with laughter the first time I saw it. The movie was an OK way to say goodbye to the show, but like always in that type of situation was nowhere near as good as the series, and I'm glad they didn't milk it out following the characters round in college. Ending it all after 6th form was over, and having one last send off is often the best way to do it.
All my favourite TV shows are finished - Ray Donovan, Game of thrones, The Sopranos and Boardwalk Empire. I also liked Entourage but haven't seem the film yet, also looking forward to the new Sopranos prequal and the upcoming Ray Donovan movie.
Watching episode 2 of Dexter.
Not gonna post spoilers, so I'll refer to it as the final appearance of Richard Harrow (the sniper with the mask, with half his face missing) in Boardwalk Empire, as the episode ends. Remember that scene, zx1? Great stuff.
I'm slowly watching my way through Game of Thrones again over a period of weeks. The first 4 or 5 seasons really are brilliant, then the show went downhill as they ran out of source material from the books and just made it up as they went along. The last two series just turned into sequences of blockbuster action set pieces which were spectacular enough, but the story got filled with plot holes and illogical character choices which just p!ssed off fans of the books.
Although it's now increasingly looking like the books might never get finished, so the show's ending might become canon! :-O
Watch it until season 4, which is arguably one of the greatest seasons of TV ever. Then assume it finishes at that point, which it really should have. Okay, season 5 is half decent, season 6 is awful, 7 ok-ish, 8 should be nuked from orbit and ignored that it ever existed.
Yes. The final season really is that bad. It's only worth watching to see how something so good could fall so badly.
I'll probably still watch the new season to see if they can get any kind of redemption.
That basically describes every American TV show that made money.....Starts good, stays good for a while, dies a horrible death becomes a zombie, and even then still manages to outstay it's welcome long beyond the point of being shot in the head, and left to rot on the side of the road....
The only US TV series that managed to ever be good from the get go, stay good, for a few more seasons then know how to end on a climax, and more importantly when to end, was Breaking Bad.....Better Call Saul seemed like it would be a nice prequel/tie in, to that show, but I gave up after waiting for it to get really good for 2 whole seasons....It never happened.
Was funny seeing the guy who played Trevor Phillips in GTAV turn up in one episode, and get pretty much shut down by Mike though :))
I've started watching Breaking Bad again for the first time since it originally finished - nearly finished season 2 already. There's a hell of a lot more going on per episode than what I remember. My memory is of a lot of sitting-around-the-table-having-breakfast scenes in the first couple of seasons but it's a lot more fast-paced than that.
What's interesting now is watching it from Skylar's and Jessie's family perspective. When it originally aired you only really see things from Walt's and Jessie's point of view and their families busting their balls whilst they're trying to earn money for them makes you despise them. I know back then Skylar got a lot of hate as we all thought Walt was doing it just to provide for his family and she was being a bitch.
But now we know that Walt and Jessie are really terrible human beings, no matter what happens to them over the course of it all. Walt lying through his teeth to his family - we now know it's not really to protect them, although there is some of that to it, he's really lying to protect doing something he enjoys. When Skylar gets massively pi55ed at him over the second-cell-phone is something you can get behind now; she knows that Walt is full of bullshit but has absolutely no idea why. She knows in her heart that he wouldn't have an affair - and he tells her that - but put yourself in her position with your SO: what on earth would you think? It's kinda brilliant seeing it from both sides now.
Really glad to be watching it again. it's just as superb 8 years on. Did the greatest TV show ever made really finish 8 years ago?? :-O
There's a hell of a lot more going on per episode than what I remember...
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Did the greatest TV show ever made really finish 8 years ago?? :-O
My memory of the show is that the first few episodes were good, then it devolved into a recurring theme of nothing happening for a whole episode, squeezing in a hook to watch the next one in the last 3 minutes.
It's a show where I'm glad I met the characters as they were interesting, but it's hard to recommend anyone else watch it as there's an extraordinary amount of padding. The fly episode is a prime example.
And what's this other show that finished? I might watch that.
There's a hell of a lot more going on per episode than what I remember...
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Did the greatest TV show ever made really finish 8 years ago?? :-O
My memory of the show is that the first few episodes were good, then it devolved into a recurring theme of nothing happening for a whole episode, squeezing in a hook to watch the next one in the last 3 minutes.
It's a show where I'm glad I met the characters as they were interesting, but it's hard to recommend anyone else watch it as there's an extraordinary amount of padding. The fly episode is a prime example.
And what's this other show that finished? I might watch that.
Better Call Saul - I don't think it's finished yet.
I know what you mean: my memory of BB was exactly the same - that there was a lot of padding in the first couple of seasons. Currently on episode 6 of S2 and there really hasn't been. Just finished the episode after Walt is found in the supermarket in his fugue state. I had a memory of that one being mostly filler but it actually isn't. Jessie life goes absolutely to crap and this is the one that Skylar confronts Walt about what she knows is his bullshit. None of it is filler and it's a marker of how Walt declines (or is that ascends?) into taking no crap and is genuinely now becoming a villain.
I was honestly expecting just to rush through season 1 and 2 because of those padding memories. In reality it's been thrilling - maybe it's the later seasons which had episode after episode of stone-cold classics that has diluted the memory of the earlier seasons a bit.
I've been quite shocked, but it's going to be interesting to see if the whole thing lives up to my memory of it.
Oh, but the fly episode - that was 100% filler - tons of complaints about it at the time IIRC. I've just read that this is the reason for it: "The whole episode was conceived to save money after being over budget"
Our memories vary. You recall padding early doors then later seasons of 'stone-cold classics'. My memory is the reverse. It would appear I'm at least correct on the early seasons.
Just started watching 'The Defeated' on netflix - imho very good, very grim and for younger people a bit of an eye opener i should imagine ( even then it's probably not even a fraction of how bad it actually was )
Set in Berlin in 1946 when the city was divided between the French, British, Russian and U.S forces of occupation.
Also related, but not in a visual medium, BBC Sounds has a 16 part drama/podcast called Nuremburg at the moment, well worth a listen even for the hardest and most jaded of hearts.
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Yes. The final season really is that bad. It's only worth watching to see how something so good could fall so badly.
I'll probably still watch the new season to see if they can get any kind of redemption.
That basically describes every American TV show that made money.....Starts good, stays good for a while, dies a horrible death becomes a zombie, and even then still manages to outstay it's welcome long beyond the point of being shot in the head, and left to rot on the side of the road....
The only US TV series that managed to ever be good from the get go, stay good, for a few more seasons then know how to end on a climax, and more importantly when to end, was Breaking Bad.....Better Call Saul seemed like it would be a nice prequel/tie in, to that show, but I gave up after waiting for it to get really good for 2 whole seasons....It never happened.
Was funny seeing the guy who played Trevor Phillips in GTAV turn up in one episode, and get pretty much shut down by Mike though :))
Nope - the first three seasons are good, very good even, but the fourth is an all time great.
Yeah, it is quite rare for a US show to stay top quality from start to finish - Breaking Bad was certainly the poster-boy for that. If you've never seen it, The Shield is another. Even the mighty The Wire had a relatively poor final season - compared to what came before it at least. The whole The Press scenario was just a bit dull.
One show that I watched over first lockdown, that I hadn't seen since it originally finished, was Fringe. I remember the last season or two getting a bit of a panning back in the day but a re-watch there was barely a bad episode the entire run (I skipped the musical episode. Musical? Shudder). Well worth watching again, particularly as knowing what's going to happen makes you appreciate the subtle things it did way more as you know what they portend. There's a series of three episodes in season 2 starting with "Peter" and ending with "White Tulip" that are a stunning set of episodes. How John Noble never received an Emmy, or was even nominated for one, is absolutely criminal.
I might give Better Call Saul another attempt as I've heard it does get really good but, like yourself, I gave up after a while as I was fed up of waiting for something to actually happen (Walking Dead another prime example of that).
I agree that The Wire had a poor final season and should have stopped after the second series.
The Sopranos - must get around to watching that at some point as I know it's supposed to be excellent. It's been on my NAS drive since about 2008 and I've not watched a single episode.
One show that isn't mentioned often but which I enjoyed greatly was Boardwalk Empire, set in the time of the prohibition. And Band of Brothers, which was actually shown on TV in the early 2000s but I somehow missed it, but watched it later. I should probably add that these days I watch all movies and shows in their original language (well, if that's English), not in the German dub.#
As for a bit off an oddball series, The Inbetweeners. I heard about it when my "Matt the Chav" comic edit had gone viral on reddit and someone dropped that series' name. "Bus w*nkers!" B-)
Watching episode 2 of Dexter.
Although it's now increasingly looking like the books might never get finished, so the show's ending might become canon! :-O
What are you doing in North Korea :p
I've started watching Breaking Bad again for the first time since it originally finished - nearly finished season 2 already. There's a hell of a lot more going on per episode than what I remember. My memory is of a lot of sitting-around-the-table-having-breakfast scenes in the first couple of seasons but it's a lot more fast-paced than that.
What's interesting now is watching it from Skylar's and Jessie's family perspective. When it originally aired you only really see things from Walt's and Jessie's point of view and their families busting their balls whilst they're trying to earn money for them makes you despise them. I know back then Skylar got a lot of hate as we all thought Walt was doing it just to provide for his family and she was being a bitch.
But now we know that Walt and Jessie are really terrible human beings, no matter what happens to them over the course of it all. Walt lying through his teeth to his family - we now know it's not really to protect them, although there is some of that to it, he's really lying to protect doing something he enjoys. When Skylar gets massively pi55ed at him over the second-cell-phone is something you can get behind now; she knows that Walt is full of bullshit but has absolutely no idea why. She knows in her heart that he wouldn't have an affair - and he tells her that - but put yourself in her position with your SO: what on earth would you think? It's kinda brilliant seeing it from both sides now.
Really glad to be watching it again. it's just as superb 8 years on. Did the greatest TV show ever made really finish 8 years ago?? :-O
It's a show where I'm glad I met the characters as they were interesting, but it's hard to recommend anyone else watch it as there's an extraordinary amount of padding. The fly episode is a prime example.
And what's this other show that finished? I might watch that.
Better Call Saul - I don't think it's finished yet.
I know what you mean: my memory of BB was exactly the same - that there was a lot of padding in the first couple of seasons. Currently on episode 6 of S2 and there really hasn't been. Just finished the episode after Walt is found in the supermarket in his fugue state. I had a memory of that one being mostly filler but it actually isn't. Jessie life goes absolutely to crap and this is the one that Skylar confronts Walt about what she knows is his bullshit. None of it is filler and it's a marker of how Walt declines (or is that ascends?) into taking no crap and is genuinely now becoming a villain.
I was honestly expecting just to rush through season 1 and 2 because of those padding memories. In reality it's been thrilling - maybe it's the later seasons which had episode after episode of stone-cold classics that has diluted the memory of the earlier seasons a bit.
I've been quite shocked, but it's going to be interesting to see if the whole thing lives up to my memory of it.
Oh, but the fly episode - that was 100% filler - tons of complaints about it at the time IIRC. I've just read that this is the reason for it: "The whole episode was conceived to save money after being over budget"
Set in Berlin in 1946 when the city was divided between the French, British, Russian and U.S forces of occupation.
Also related, but not in a visual medium, BBC Sounds has a 16 part drama/podcast called Nuremburg at the moment, well worth a listen even for the hardest and most jaded of hearts.